Government Shutdown

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jan 24, 2019 2:48 PM

This is why I love MD Governor Hogan. I voted for the guy two months ago and hopes he primaries Trump:

Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) compared President Trump and congressional leaders to “a bunch of 2-year-olds” on Thursday and said they should stop playing “stupid political games” amid the longest-ever partial closure of the federal government.

“It’s crazy. ‘If I don’t get my wall, I’m going to shut down the government.’ ‘If we don’t open the government, you can’t speak in our chamber,’ ” Hogan said, mocking the postures the president and House Speaker Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) have taken.

“It’s a bunch of 2-year-olds, you know? Let’s figure out border security, and let’s get people to work, and let’s let the State of the Union take place like it always does.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/hogan-on-shutdown-trump-pelosi-are-like-a-bunch-of-2-year-olds/2019/01/24/2e4d77ec-2006-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.eac01592f2d2 

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Thu, Jan 24, 2019 3:23 PM
posted by O-Trap

Not to mention the fact that, as it stands, there are enough people doing this that you could find a fully functional, well-maintained, used phone for less than half of the cost if you wanted to.

And of course, we need Hulu, Netflix, Prime, etc.  We must be entertained, after all.

Yeah, there are a million or so forms of disposable entertainment out there and as a society, we have this fixation on "keeping up with the Joneses". Hell, as I've gotten older, I've gotten a lot better of shutting off the little voice that says "BUY THIS!!!!", but I'll still be at a friend's house and see some new contraption he bought and feel the itch to get it because it looks cool or seems like it might be useful down the road at some point in time.

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jan 24, 2019 3:46 PM

Huh, so the two dueling Senate Bills to reopen the Government both failed. But, more Rs voted for the Democratic Bill, which is a clean CR, than voted for the Republican Bill, which had wall funding. 

Sounds like more Rs are defecting from the Trump position, at least in the Senate. 

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
18,909 posts 140 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jan 24, 2019 4:13 PM
posted by Heretic

Yeah, there are a million or so forms of disposable entertainment out there and as a society, we have this fixation on "keeping up with the Joneses". Hell, as I've gotten older, I've gotten a lot better of shutting off the little voice that says "BUY THIS!!!!", but I'll still be at a friend's house and see some new contraption he bought and feel the itch to get it because it looks cool or seems like it might be useful down the road at some point in time.

Sure.  Absolutely.  I get it.  I feel it too.

But we're supposed to be adults now.  You know ... self-control and shit.

QuakerOats Senior Member
11,701 posts 66 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jan 24, 2019 4:40 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Huh, so the two dueling Senate Bills to reopen the Government both failed. But, more Rs voted for the Democratic Bill, which is a clean CR, than voted for the Republican Bill, which had wall funding. 

Sounds like more Rs are defecting from the Trump position, at least in the Senate. 

 

 

That’s because there are always a couple of RINO’s who always do this, while the dems always circle the wagons.  But you knew this.

Spock Senior Member
5,271 posts 9 reps Joined Jul 2013
Thu, Jan 24, 2019 6:07 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Huh, so the two dueling Senate Bills to reopen the Government both failed. But, more Rs voted for the Democratic Bill, which is a clean CR, than voted for the Republican Bill, which had wall funding. 

Sounds like more Rs are defecting from the Trump position, at least in the Senate. 

They know trump is funding the wall another way....no need to vote yes

bigorangebuck22 Senior Member
322 posts 6 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jan 24, 2019 7:56 PM
posted by Spock

They know trump is funding the wall another way....no need to vote yes

is Mexico cutting a check?

Spock Senior Member
5,271 posts 9 reps Joined Jul 2013
Thu, Jan 24, 2019 8:49 PM
posted by bigorangebuck22

is Mexico cutting a check?

You do realize that the new trade deal that Mexico was forced into saves $7 billion a year for the US.

 

Boom....Mexico is paying for something

8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jan 24, 2019 10:29 PM
posted by Spock

You do realize that the new trade deal that Mexico was forced into saves $7 billion a year for the US.

 

Boom....Mexico is paying for something

That's not how trade surpluses and deficits work. Also, there is nothing in the new text that forces Mexico to pay. 

thavoice Senior Member
15,437 posts 42 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Jan 24, 2019 10:56 PM
posted by justincredible

You've got two car payments but don't have an emergency savings built up. Again, not Trump's fault. I hate that these people make me defend that jackass.

My first goal was 6 months saved up for all bills and some day to day expenses and once I did that, I am working on a full year in an account I will not touch.

 

I still use a flip phone believe it or not and get away with 15 dollars a month on spectrum mobile!

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
3,345 posts 35 reps Joined Oct 2010
Fri, Jan 25, 2019 7:44 AM
posted by Spock

You do realize that the new trade deal that Mexico was forced into saves $7 billion a year for the US.

 

Boom....Mexico is paying for something

Are you serious?  I assume you’re kidding. If US consumers pay less for Mexican company outputs or Mexican consumers pay more for US company outputs, that is not the country of Mexico paying for a wall. 

 

Just because Trump says something doesn’t make it so. You may want to do a little basic research before parroting his BS. 

QuakerOats Senior Member
11,701 posts 66 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 25, 2019 9:55 AM

 

Illegal immigration is costing us tens of billions of dollars per year, if not over 100 hundred billion.  Spending $5 billion for a wall, or even $50 billion, will largely pay for itself in less than one year.  The math is simple, but the liberals are interested in only one thing – power.

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 247 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 25, 2019 11:31 AM

100 hundred billion. That's 10 trillion.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
39,070 posts 24 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 25, 2019 12:39 PM

I read that in Dr Evil’s voice. Made it better. 

cbus4life Ignorant
2,875 posts 6 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 25, 2019 12:45 PM

The air traffic controllers are going to bring this to an end soon.

Devils Advocate Brudda o da bomber
4,899 posts 100 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 25, 2019 12:48 PM
posted by QuakerOats

 

Illegal immigration is costing us tens of billions of dollars per year, if not over 100 hundred billion.  Spending $5 billion for a wall, or even $50 billion, will largely pay for itself in less than one year.  The math is simple, but the liberals are interested in only one thing – power.

A prime example of republican math

overstated for the humanitarian tragedy on the south border

understated for defense spending and tac

Heretic Son of the Sun
20,517 posts 202 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 25, 2019 12:48 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

I read that in Dr Evil’s voice. Made it better. 

And his posts tend to make more sense when you pretend he is actually Dr. Evil.

Con_Alma Senior Member
12,320 posts 31 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 25, 2019 1:03 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

This is why I love MD Governor Hogan. I voted for the guy two months ago and hopes he primaries Trump:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/hogan-on-shutdown-trump-pelosi-are-like-a-bunch-of-2-year-olds/2019/01/24/2e4d77ec-2006-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.eac01592f2d2 

Governor Hogan is a centrist and has done a nice job in liberal Maryland.  He runs on bipartisanship and bringing both sides together which you would need to do as a stated "Republican".  Of course he ran against a complete goof ball, Ben Jealous last year so he was a shoe in for a second term.  I believe he is the only "Republican" governor to ever win  a second term in Maryland.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
9,465 posts 98 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 25, 2019 1:06 PM
posted by cbus4life

The air traffic controllers are going to bring this to an end soon.

Rumor on twitter is that Trump will announce today that the government will reopen for a few weeks while they continue to discuss the budget. Trump speaking at 1:30pm

superman Senior Member
4,377 posts 71 reps Joined Nov 2009
Fri, Jan 25, 2019 1:17 PM
posted by iclfan2

Rumor on twitter is that Trump will announce today that the government will reopen for a few weeks while they continue to discuss the budget. Trump speaking at 1:30pm

If he declared a State of emergency today, he can get the government reopened in time of the SOTU from what I've read.  

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