Disgusted with the Biden administration

posted by Al Bundy

Socio-economic advantages play a bigger role in our society than race or gender. Both of Harris's parents were doctors. She went to a school district that was more privileged than what most of us did. She had access to any tutoring or technology that she needed. She was well connected, and it has greatly helped her career. I'm sure that she has worked hard, but she has had greater opportunities than most of us because of her parents.

Jmog assumes  thinks he is smarter than the girl because he got a higher sat score but discounts the fact she was probly even smarter than him but went to a shitty school and had to learn on her own 

posted by geeblock

Jmog assumes  thinks he is smarter than the girl because he got a higher sat score but discounts the fact she was probly even smarter than him but went to a shitty school and had to learn on her own 

School, home life, stable environment, access to opportunities are so important. I'm sure that racial and gender discrimination do occur, but I'm also sure that LeBron's daughter will have greater opportunities because of what she was born into than any white male on this site.

posted by Al Bundy

Socio-economic advantages play a bigger role in our society than race or gender. Both of Harris's parents were doctors. She went to a school district that was more privileged than what most of us did. She had access to any tutoring or technology that she needed. She was well connected, and it has greatly helped her career. I'm sure that she has worked hard, but she has had greater opportunities than most of us because of her parents.

100% agreed. If you look at socio-economic advantages and follow it through, the "success" of whites or blacks at the same socio-economic status starting points absolutely do mirror each other. It actually is evidence against the "racial discrimination" narrative to be honest which is why we don't hear much about it, because it doesn't fit the agenda.

If you separate people by socio-economic starting points only, the racial outcome divides (economically) completely disappear.  

Now that is something that can and should be worked on. There are also cultural differences that need to  be worked on, from single motherhood rates, to facts like how actual immigrants from Africa or India (both black skinned) to far better than black skinned folks already here. It dispells the race/skin color reason and leaves it to culture or starting economic status.

Al, you bring up a very impotant topic that is far more important than race or gender with regards to discrimination/inequalities and you are 100% correct. Every reputible study out there shows this.

posted by geeblock

Notice you didn’t disagree that you also benefited way more than were discriminated against 

I didn't disagree nor agree, I ignored the assumption that I have done better or benefited as it is impossible to prove with any evidence one way or another. I try to stay away from feelings (do I feel like I have been discriminated against more or less than others) and stick to facts that can be backed up by evidence.

posted by geeblock

Jmog assumes  thinks he is smarter than the girl because he got a higher sat score but discounts the fact she was probly even smarter than him but went to a shitty school and had to learn on her own 

You assumed you knew where the girl come from. Its kind of racist to assume that because she was black that she came from a poor family that went to a shitty school huh?

She went to the school district right next to mine which is just as "good" as ours was. That's why her and I talked a lot because we were from neighboring towns and rivals.

Secondly, if you actually read my post, you will see that I told her it was something she needed (single mother) so don't feel bad. She was the one that said it wasn't right that she got more scholarship money than I did. 

So once again, you either didn't read my post or just are blowing bull shit like Fab does about what I "think or feel" without actually knowing how I think or feel.

posted by Al Bundy

School, home life, stable environment, access to opportunities are so important. I'm sure that racial and gender discrimination do occur, but I'm also sure that LeBron's daughter will have greater opportunities because of what she was born into than any white male on this site.

100% correct.

posted by Fab4Runner

So you disagree with your wife saying that a female VP bringing so much to females is absurd? 

It's her opinion, she's got every right to have that opinion. In her mind, having a female VP isn't all of a sudden going to make any changes to how "female empowerment." Why? Because she's seen it at the local and lower levels -- her girls she teaches have tons of female administrators, leaders, coaches, etc. and it's not helping there. She's taught at three different schools in three different states (4 and 4, if include a part-time job), and all the schools have been 90+ percent free and reduced lunches.

Her experiences, either personal OR what she's seen from her students align with what Al Bundy has said:

Socio-economic advantages play a bigger role in our society than race or gender. Both of Harris's parents were doctors. She went to a school district that was more privileged than what most of us did. She had access to any tutoring or technology that she needed. She was well connected, and it has greatly helped her career. I'm sure that she has worked hard, but she has had greater opportunities than most of us because of her parents.

Probably would be more emphasis on the "parents" side of it too. The home life is so important to the success of all people - regardless of race or sex [or insert whatever]. Sure, there are positives that can come from a female VP, she (nor I) would disagree with that. But, saying it will make a major difference isn't exactly accurate either.

How many people brought up Victoria Woodhull either leading up to the election or inauguration day? Geraldine Ferraro? Tonie Nathan? Lena Springs? Heck, Sarah Palin was ridiculed so much. Once Kamala Harris accepted the VP nomination, everyone seemed to turn their heads at her previous statement:

I believe them, and I respect them being able to tell their story and having the courage to do it.

I am not sure why this is an "me" versus "them" argument either, except for when someone wants to "lol" at discrimination. I don't really need to repeat it, because it's been said before...but, there's not tons of differences between those fighting back (BLM, Appalachians, etc.). We all have been through it before. We all want to end discrimination, regardless of how much we think others have experiences or haven't experienced.

Things like this are great ideas to create unity. I still listen to this regularly, think about it regularly, and love what Tyler is trying to do. Discrimination shouldn't be accepted, or laughed at, anymore. 

posted by Fab4Runner

😂 Let me know when people going out to restaurants quarantine before and after each trip. 

I asked this before, but have you confirmed if everyone at the march quarantined after they went?  Also, can you confirm whether there were any people with COVID at the march spreading it around?

posted by jmog

You assumed you knew where the girl come from. Its kind of racist to assume that because she was black that she came from a poor family that went to a shitty school huh?

She went to the school district right next to mine which is just as "good" as ours was. That's why her and I talked a lot because we were from neighboring towns and rivals.

Secondly, if you actually read my post, you will see that I told her it was something she needed (single mother) so don't feel bad. She was the one that said it wasn't right that she got more scholarship money than I did. 

So once again, you either didn't read my post or just are blowing bull shit like Fab does about what I "think or feel" without actually knowing how I think or feel.

If I was as old as you are and the only bad thing that happened to me because of my race was that a black girl got more scholarship money than me because she was black I would feel blessed 

posted by geeblock

If I was as old as you are and the only bad thing that happened to me because of my race was that a black girl got more scholarship money than me because she was black I would feel blessed 

If someone is more qualified than you, do you believe you deserve something more than him/her (not black), because you are black?

posted by geeblock

If I was as old as you are and the only bad thing that happened to me because of my race was that a black girl got more scholarship money than me because she was black I would feel blessed 

Again, you assume it is the only thing bad.

I have had numerous things happen just because I was white or just because I was a male. Above I gave one institutionalized (codified) example as it would be evidence to the fact that white men are discriminated against rather than other anecdotal evidences that only happened to me.

Eventually you will actually read and not assume beyond what was actually posted.

I have no doubt that discrimination exists. I also have no doubt that the solution is not creating legally mandated biases in the opposite direction. Better solution? I'll freely admit I have few if any.

Biden Executive Orders in 3 days: 30

Trump EOs in 100 days: 24

And trying to raise the minimum wage to $15 is stupid. (Federal or not)

Also, Biden’s super duper plan of 100M vaccines in 100 days would be great, except that we’re already doing 1M a day.

posted by iclfan2

Biden Executive Orders in 3 days: 30

Trump EOs in 100 days: 24

And trying to raise the minimum wage to $15 is stupid. (Federal or not)

Also, Biden’s super duper plan of 100M vaccines in 100 days would be great, except that we’re already doing 1M a day.

A lot of these are to reverse Trump's EOs to be fair.  This is why everyone should advocate for congress to actually do their jobs, instead of cheerleading for the President to issue EOs.

I am getting a kick out of people who voted or endorsed Biden being shocked by some of his early actions.    I.E. labor unions endorsing Biden and now being upset with his his actions directed toward the Keystone pipeline.  Biden is literally doing what he said he would do, so I am not sure why they are shocked.   You endorsed/voted for it, so now you own it.  Special shout out to Buttigieg giving his best version of "learn to code" type answer to Cruz regarding the people who will lose their jobs.  Only three days, and it's very clear we are getting the Obama admin playbook for 4 years. 

$15 minimum wage has never made any economical sense, but again when people lose jobs over it, they will have to own it if they voted and/or  endorsed for Biden.

Neocon Joe is already mobilizing troops to Iraq and Syria.  Do you all remember when the anti war left was a thing?  There were a flash in the pan moments when they came out of hiding after the deaths of Baghdadi/Soleimani and when Bolton became the national security advisor, but other than that, I can't remember seeing the anti war left in the last 12 years.  

Bush has to be wondering why he is the only one labeled as a war criminal. 

https://myfox28columbus.com/news/nation-world/biden-takes-on-big-oil-temporarily-suspends-fossil-fuel-drilling-on-federal-lands?fbclid=IwAR2W7ESiHDJFJw3AcWVw45Q5sIDf399vZZQIn1joq5qBS1QlkKQsZyS6Wg0

It’s not rocket science what the multiple attacks on Big oil (in just three days!)will do to gas prices. 

posted by queencitybuckeye

I have no doubt that discrimination exists. I also have no doubt that the solution is not creating legally mandated biases in the opposite direction. Better solution? I'll freely admit I have few if any.

Exactly

posted by like_that

Neocon Joe is already mobilizing troops to Iraq and Syria.  Do you all remember when the anti war left was a thing?  There were a flash in the pan moments when they came out of hiding after the deaths of Baghdadi/Soleimani and when Bolton became the national security advisor, but other than that, I can't remember seeing the anti war left in the last 12 years.  

Bush has to be wondering why he is the only one labeled as a war criminal. 

What, a week in office and he's (Biden) doing his best to piss off Canada, Mexico, Russia, China (who he's in bed with) and also heard North Korea has restarted their nuclear program. Not saying N. Korea completely shut down the nuke program but we really didn't hear anything about it on Trump's watch.

I predicted before this election that if Biden were elected, with how inept he is, we will see another 9/11-like attack on American soil on his watch.

I also believe that a lot of these things he's signing are ideas of the dolt/giggling school girl VP he brought in with him.

posted by BR1986FB

What, a week in office and he's (Biden) doing his best to piss off Canada, Mexico, Russia, China (who he's in bed with) and also heard North Korea has restarted their nuclear program. Not saying N. Korea completely shut down the nuke program but we really didn't hear anything about it on Trump's watch.

I predicted before this election that if Biden were elected, with how inept he is, we will see another 9/11-like attack on American soil on his watch.

I also believe that a lot of these things he's signing are ideas of the dolt/giggling school girl VP he brought in with him.

Great to see you giving the new administration a chance with an open mind.  You sound like you have Biden Derangement Syndrome.