posted by jmogu hate anecdotal evidence thoI will give 2 examples, 1 from my dad 40 years ago, and one from me 20 years ago.
My dad, almost 40 years ago, wanted to switch careers and be a firemen/EMT. He scored 2nd on a combination of all the tests among all the people that went through the program. The fire department was only hiring 2 firemen at the time. So if they were hiring the two best candidates, my dad would have been a firemen. However, because of affirmative action only one of the two new hires could be a white male. Since the one person that scored better than him was also a white male, my dad lost the job to a lower scoring minority.
About 24 years ago I started college. When it comes to engineering scholarships are typically all about math/science grades and math/science parts of the ACT (math if you only took SAT). My GPA (math science) and ACT (math science) were actually perfect scores (straight As in grades, 36s on math/science). It earned me a full tuition paid scholarship for engineering. An african american girl in my class (who was an amazing person, we were great friends, so this is nothing against her) didn't have the same grades or ACT scores. She had not only full tuition, but full room and board, plus a living stipend so she didn't have to work through school. I had to work 2 and 3 part time jobs to have spending money. She even thought it was appalling that she got a lot more than I did scholarship wise. I personally told her that she needed it (she also was a single mother). Even though I also needed it (had a wife and kid by the time I graduated). So she got extra scholarships not based on merit, but based on the color of her skin vs mine.
If you don't believe there is discrimination out there against Caucasian males, then you aren't paying much attention.
And lets not even start on the false sexual assault accusations that end a college kids career just based on the statement of the female. No evidence needed.
I’ll try to stay on topic here. LOL
The pipefitters' union @battleground_ua is mad that @JoeBiden killed Keystone XL and, with it, tens of thousands of jobs. (https://t.co/8w37fKTsV9)
— Joel Pollak (@joelpollak) January 21, 2021
The union endorsed Biden for president. (https://t.co/q2G5TBTaXs)
Biden has questions to answer. But so does the union leadership.
posted by iclfan2I’ll try to stay on topic here. LOL
The pipefitters' union @battleground_ua is mad that @JoeBiden killed Keystone XL and, with it, tens of thousands of jobs. (https://t.co/8w37fKTsV9)
— Joel Pollak (@joelpollak) January 21, 2021
The union endorsed Biden for president. (https://t.co/q2G5TBTaXs)
Biden has questions to answer. But so does the union leadership.
Yeah let me say (as the Biden supporter on here apparently), that killing the pipeline completely is dumb. There does need to be a pipeline there eventually as it is safer than the current method of rail cars. The location does need to moved, but not killed totally.
Yo PTOWN...did you get that Appalachian grant for OSU?!
posted by ptown_trojans_1Yeah let me say (as the Biden supporter on here apparently), that killing the pipeline completely is dumb. There does need to be a pipeline there eventually as it is safer than the current method of rail cars. The location does need to moved, but not killed totally.
I also voted for Biden (I wasn't excited about it, but I felt it was the lesser of 2 evils). The pipeline change is pure politics. He is just doing the opposite of Trump. I wish that he would do what is in the best interest of the country and keep the pipeline.
posted by AutomatikYo PTOWN...did you get that Appalachian grant for OSU?!
Yup.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Oh I have some good race stories too. I grew up in a majority white part of the state, my sister is mixed, and my step father is black. I was called N lover a lot growing up. Also, I've noticed how my sister, as mixed, is treated differently than me numerous occasions throughout my life to today.
My overall point is we all deal with various forms of discrimination but at least in my experience, white makes have not experienced as much as other groups.
Last I checked, I wasn't, nor anyone else, saying that people of color or women don't face discrimination. We were just pointing out the hypocrisy of Fab's "lol-ing at white male discrimination".
I don't think I would ever laugh at anyone else's bad things that have happened in their life or when they were discriminated against, but maybe that's just me.
posted by geeblock
u hate anecdotal evidence tho
Affirmative Action is a government program that directly discriminates against people based on their skin color (in this case white). That isn't anecdotal when its codified policy.
Nice try though.
posted by Fab4RunnerCool. I'm still going to laugh at a white male saying it's not a big deal to have our first female VP in 245 years. It is a big deal. And I'm going to laugh when he says he's experienced more discrimination than women. White males in America have had it easier than anyone else BY FAR, so yes, those statements are hilarious to me.
I like white males. I'm married to one. All things considered, he's had an easy, carefree life. He knows that, and would never claim he's faced more discrimination than a woman or a POC.
I'm well aware that most of the dudes on this site think my opinions are wrong and/or dumb. I don't really care. Been dealing with that since I was 6. 🤷🏼♀️
Here you go again. If you are going to attribute something to me (or anyone else) get it right. I never once said it wasn't a big deal. End of story. I don't need to elaborate on that anymore.
Furthermore, everything I mentioned was from my wife. She brought it up, not me. I passed it on, which is what she's felt and seen in her professional career. She has every right to feel that way, especially from what she's experienced either personally or through colleagues.
People think your opinions are wrong because you've read and attributed things completely wrong numerous times. This is probably where I am "man-splaining" to you, or so you'd probably claim.
posted by OSHHere you go again. If you are going to attribute something to me (or anyone else) get it right. I never once said it wasn't a big deal. End of story. I don't need to elaborate on that anymore.
Furthermore, everything I mentioned was from my wife. She brought it up, not me. I passed it on, which is what she's felt and seen in her professional career. She has every right to feel that way, especially from what she's experienced either personally or through colleagues.
People think your opinions are wrong because you've read and attributed things completely wrong numerous times. This is probably where I am "man-splaining" to you, or so you'd probably claim.
So you disagree with your wife saying that a female VP bringing so much to females is absurd?
Interesting Friday discussion.
posted by OSH
People think your opinions are wrong because you've read and attributed things completely wrong numerous times. This is probably where I am "man-splaining" to you, or so you'd probably claim.
OSH is right here. People believe Fab is wrong because she says things like "people going out to restaurants are creating dangerous covid situations and are spreading covid" yet she attends a BLM protest herself.
Its not just that her opinions tend to be proven wrong, its that she tends to be a hypocrite about her opinions and still defends everything about them.
posted by jmogOSH is right here. People believe Fab is wrong because she says things like "people going out to restaurants are creating dangerous covid situations and are spreading covid" yet she attends a BLM protest herself.
Its not just that her opinions tend to be proven wrong, its that she tends to be a hypocrite about her opinions and still defends everything about them.
😂 Let me know when people going out to restaurants quarantine before and after each trip.
posted by Fab4Runner😂 Let me know when people going out to restaurants quarantine before and after each trip.
Let me know when you stop being a hypocrite, still waiting for that apology for saying I didn't care that someone died because they were old.
posted by jmogLet me know when you stop being a hypocrite, still waiting for that apology for saying I didn't care that someone died because they were old.
Lol I'll get right on that.
posted by jmogAffirmative Action is a government program that directly discriminates against people based on their skin color (in this case white). That isn't anecdotal when its codified policy.
Nice try though.
And you also are omitting the 100 times being a white male helped you while crying about the one time it hurt you.
I also received the applaccia scholar
posted by geeblockAnd you also are omitting the 100 times being a white male helped you while crying about the one time it hurt you.
I also received the applaccia scholar
Did I cry? Or did I just give an example that shows that it happens to white males as well?
Notice you didn't dispute that codified policies/laws aren't anecdotal.
Socio-economic advantages play a bigger role in our society than race or gender. Both of Harris's parents were doctors. She went to a school district that was more privileged than what most of us did. She had access to any tutoring or technology that she needed. She was well connected, and it has greatly helped her career. I'm sure that she has worked hard, but she has had greater opportunities than most of us because of her parents.
posted by jmogDid I cry? Or did I just give an example that shows that it happens to white males as well?
Notice you didn't dispute that codified policies/laws aren't anecdotal.
Notice you didn’t disagree that you also benefited way more than were discriminated against
posted by Al BundySocio-economic advantages play a bigger role in our society than race or gender. Both of Harris's parents were doctors. She went to a school district that was more privileged than what most of us did. She had access to any tutoring or technology that she needed. She was well connected, and it has greatly helped her career. I'm sure that she has worked hard, but she has had greater opportunities than most of us because of her parents.
Very true