Disgusted with the Biden administration

Also, Merrick Garland LOL!  This guy, who the dems have been bemoaning for years now, is incrementally being exposed for what he really is.

posted by CenterBHSFan

* I think there was a minor section of people who truly did believe everything that the media told them about muh Russiagate! and probably still hesitant to admit that they were duped.

Honestly, I don't think most of them care.  It's the same with a lot of Fox viewers.  People want rage porn, and that's what the cable news gives them.

I shake my head at a lot of people who think the leftwing media is somehow better, and I think it's just because all of them basically parroting NYT that it SEEMS like confirmation via consensus.  Easy perception to have, but no they aren't really journalists any more and they aren't really independent.

I won't dispute that Fox/Breitbart are the media arm of the RNC.  But the others, particularly NYT/WaPo/CNN/MSNBC are the media arm of the DNC.

I've known colleagues who would flip their shit over someone reading Breitbart that don't bat an eye over Politico or Buzzfeed.  Next to alcohol, politics is the biggest factor in turning smart people stupid.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Also, Merrick Garland LOL!  This guy, who the dems have been bemoaning for years now, is incrementally being exposed for what he really is.

I didn't really follow or research him, but it seemed like he was really a moderate, albeit left-of-center.  Even Fox largely portrayed him that way.

Maybe the better question, as with Barr, is the DOJ just a complete shitshow?  I haven't followed Garland that closely to have an opinion.  But I think Barr was definitely treated pretty unfairly for, basically, not breaking the law to get Trump.

posted by gut

I didn't really follow or research him, but it seemed like he was really a moderate, albeit left-of-center.  Even Fox largely portrayed him that way.

Maybe the better question, as with Barr, is the DOJ just a complete shitshow?  I haven't followed Garland that closely to have an opinion.  But I think Barr was definitely treated pretty unfairly for, basically, not breaking the law to get Trump.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that all those alphabet entities are a shit show. They are corrupt to their core and I don't know how in the world they can be salvaged at this point. 

posted by jmog

People recognizing that was the division that was going to fester for decades up to and directly leading to the civil war is not the same as saying the document is racist.

There is a difference, again, in the sins of the authors and the document itself.

Key example, David in the Bible was an adulterer and a murderer, he also wrote the book of Psalms. Does that mean the Bible supports murder? 

Of course not, that would be a logical fallacy just like saying that “well, some of the delegates that had a hand in the Constitution were racist, that means the document was” is asinine.

The founding documents said ALL MEN (and of course men being of mankind/humans). Sure, as a people/country we took nearly 200 years to accomplish that goal of all men (1787 to 1960s) but that’s on us as a country and a people, not on the document itself. 

So again, point to the words in the document that spell out race, not to the authors.

I don’t think the word men or male is used either from my memory. I just think it was understood the document covered only males 

But yes sentencing a generation of people to 20 more years of slavery when the rest of the world is acknowledging slavery is wrong and most of the members know it’s wrong, just because some people will lose money is in fact racist. 

posted by CenterBHSFan

Also, Merrick Garland LOL!  This guy, who the dems have been bemoaning for years now, is incrementally being exposed for what he really is.

This is why who cares about McConnell. He stopped this clown from getting power. He wins. 

posted by iclfan2

This is why who cares about McConnell. He stopped this clown from getting power. He wins. 

Yeah. I guess I can give you that, even if I don't like acknowledging it lol!

He's still one of the worst, imo

It's really too bad that the Dems are hindering "our democracy!" by refusing to have primary debates, because things are getting interesting!

https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1653597349984325633?s=20

posted by geeblock

I don’t think the word men or male is used either from my memory. I just think it was understood the document covered only males 

But yes sentencing a generation of people to 20 more years of slavery when the rest of the world is acknowledging slavery is wrong and most of the members know it’s wrong, just because some people will lose money is in fact racist. 

1. I said founding documents said men, which is correct in tbe DoI.

2. Men means mankind not only males, most people understand this even if you don’t.

3. Again, the fact that people didn’t fix the slavery problem for 60 years doesn’t make the document racist. You are just being obtuse with no actual text from the document to back up your stance. Show me one reference to race in the Constitution to prove your point. Just one.

posted by CenterBHSFan

It's really too bad that the Dems are hindering "our democracy!" by refusing to have primary debates, because things are getting interesting!

Wait... Dems are not having primary debates?  Are you serious? 

posted by ernest_t_bass

Wait... Dems are not having primary debates?  Are you serious? 

Nope, they cancelled them. I am sure they are trying to find a way to get rid of the debates against the RNC primary winner too.

I would be shocked if Joe Biden participated in any debate leading up the the election. Unless, of course, he can have the questions handed to him on notecards beforehand.

posted by jmog

Nope, they cancelled them. I am sure they are trying to find a way to get rid of the debates against the RNC primary winner too.

I think there are also rumblings that Trump isn't going to debate.

On the other hand, you've had the Libertarians trying to muscle their way into the debates for years.

Honestly, the debate are largely useless and most superficial.  Still, it's the only real substance millions of voters get even if it'sbasically  just a mash-up of 30-second sound bites.

https://nypost.com/2023/05/03/fbi-tip-that-puts-biden-at-center-of-criminal-scheme-sends-investigators-around-world/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/whistleblower-s-claims-against-biden-could-be-biggest-us-scandal-ever/ar-AA1aIgq1?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=dd5a1aa6c4a4441fbfdab330e271c35d&ei=12

I still think the Clinton/FBI/Media Russia Hoax will never be topped; but this involves the then-VP, and the now-Prez, so yes, let's get straight to it. 

I don't follow Chuck Grassley all that closely, but to me he usually seems above the typical partisan lies and distortions.

That said, this is the EXACT same thing we saw during Trump with anonymous never-identified whistle blowers claiming "evidence" that was never produced.

And not to remotely compare Grassley to Schiff or Swalwell, but those guys went on the news dozens of times saying they had seen evidence proving Trump belonged in jail. That was a lie.

I think there's no question Biden was selling influence, which a lot in the swamp do and it's not necessarily illegal. But before making the leap to saying he accepted a bribe, I'm going to need to see some hard evidence.

posted by gut

I think there are also rumblings that Trump isn't going to debate.

On the other hand, you've had the Libertarians trying to muscle their way into the debates for years.

Honestly, the debate are largely useless and most superficial.  Still, it's the only real substance millions of voters get even if it'sbasically  just a mash-up of 30-second sound bites.

I've read reports that he feels he has too big a lead to bother with debates. Which seems like code for "If I do debate the cluster of also-rans and they attack me, it might hurt me down the road".

So, in essence, it looks like we're setting up to have the same two cranky seniors we had in 2020, but four years older and now unwilling to debate because they both feel for various reasons that being in a situation where they have to stand in front of a mic and give answers could only be damaging to their chances. That's just spiffy!

posted by gut

I think there are also rumblings that Trump isn't going to debate.

On the other hand, you've had the Libertarians trying to muscle their way into the debates for years.

Honestly, the debate are largely useless and most superficial.  Still, it's the only real substance millions of voters get even if it'sbasically  just a mash-up of 30-second sound bites.

Well, they could also serve as evidence to things like perjury. 

posted by gut

I don't follow Chuck Grassley all that closely, but to me he usually seems above the typical partisan lies and distortions.

That said, this is the EXACT same thing we saw during Trump with anonymous never-identified whistle blowers claiming "evidence" that was never produced.

And not to remotely compare Grassley to Schiff or Swalwell, but those guys went on the news dozens of times saying they had seen evidence proving Trump belonged in jail. That was a lie.

I think there's no question Biden was selling influence, which a lot in the swamp do and it's not necessarily illegal. But before making the leap to saying he accepted a bribe, I'm going to need to see some hard evidence.

No matter what, Biden doesn't have any worries. Nobody is [[ ever ]] going to go after him in the way that Trump got ganged. 

Ever.

We know it. They know it. He knows it.

Whoever or whenever, the next republican president will have to go through the same political persecutions that Trump did, because that is just what the democrats have turned into. They are too deep into it now. 

posted by geeblock

But yes sentencing a generation of people to 20 more years of slavery when the rest of the world is acknowledging slavery is wrong and most of the members know it’s wrong, just because some people will lose money is in fact racist. 

So what are these people being sentenced to if the Articles of Confederation remain in place?  Or each state goes its separate way?  Or groups of southern and separately northern states form their own central governments? 

These were the political realities of the time.  Its easy to look back over 230 yrs and broad stroke it with the racist brush.