Disgusted with the Biden administration

posted by QuakerOats

The president spends Presidents Day in Ukraine.  Ok.   Sure seems as if he and his puppet masters are inching us closer to full-scale war.  Blowing up Nordstream pipeline was probably the first formal volley last year; followed up with tens of billions of dollars, now tanks, then aircraft soon to follow.  

These are the people who said Trump would start WWIII.  How can this regime be trusted at all?

This whole thing is a clusterf#ck. We're given the impression "the US isn't involved in Ukraine" but they are. 

If I'm the Russians, I'm looking at all of this military support as a direct act of war. 

To put the shoe on the other foot, if Russia had supplied $100 billion (or whatever it is) in military support to a country we were at odds with, and that "support" resulted in thousands of lost US military lives, wouldn't WE be pissed?

I wouldn't be surprised if this uptick in these stupid balloons has something to do with the Chinese siding with the Russians to somehow mess with the US. I'm sure the Russians are in the ear of the US hating countries (China, Iran, etc) because of what's going on.

posted by BR1986FB

If I'm the Russians, I'm looking at all of this military support as a direct act of war. 

It is.  And so is invading a neighboring nation state you pledged to respect their borders if they gave you their nukes.  The Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022 is akin to the German invasion of Poland in 1939 in that it is a last straw and appeasement is now over.  There are however two distinct differences:  1) The Russian invasion force going in shit the bed.  2) Several of the major belligerents have nukes. 

Given these two factors what exists currently is a contained world war.  Taiwan would be the Asian spark.

You guys remember we directly armed and trained the Taliban during the 10 years USSR invaded Afghanistan, right?

posted by gut

You guys remember we directly armed and trained the Taliban during the 10 years USSR invaded Afghanistan, right?

We did.  The USSR no longer exists.  Several states broke free of that leash and wish to never come back.  Some in the NATO alliance on the border.  The other big difference is we have armed the Ukrainians with far more.  Lethal potential that has caused Russian casualties and losses of equipment to be tenfold suffered in Afhanistan in just a year of warfare.  Western heavy tanks with trained Ukrainian crews are soon to be crossing the border.  Patriot missile defense and likely at some point western warplanes.  Most of this a year ago considered impossible, a red line.  This will only accelerate until one side is forced to bend the knee.

Ukrainian casualties are likely 100k+ the Russians +more. This indicates the Russian population is all in at this point as the war will not be brought to them directly.  This is not your 80's proxy war.  Ukraine is a large European nation with vast natural resources that seeks to align with the West.  That is your casus belli for the Russians.  The Nazi rhetoric is for domestic consumption. 

posted by gut

You guys remember we directly armed and trained the Taliban during the 10 years USSR invaded Afghanistan, right?

And the soviet union aided N Vietnam during the Vietnam war.   This has been going on for decades. 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/internet-recoils-biden-talks-nurse-things-dont-think-learn-nursing-school-gross

Disgusted ---  the right word

Wasn't sure where to discuss this, but can some of you left leaning posters (including the self proclaimed moderates) answer the following questions regarding 6 Jan?

-Why did the 6 Jan committee not share the footage of the police escorting the super horned qanon man, including unlocking doors for him?

-Why did the 6 Jan committee edit the famous Senator Hawley running clip to make it seem like he was the only one running for his life, when in reality the unedited footage shows him trailing at the back of the pack of many running lawmakers?

-Why did the media not question and still are not questioning our lawmakers on why the footage was withheld from the public?

I made a comment that the liberals of the past went missing and never came back after 2008.  Pre 2008 the liberals would ask these simple questions. 

Imagine withholding exculpatory evidence, and yet then referring the case to the justice department for prosecution.  And these are people who would rail against a police department covering up evidence.  Hypocrites is not even close to the proper word, how about treasonous bastards.

posted by like_that

I made a comment that the liberals of the past went missing and never came back after 2008.  Pre 2008 the liberals would ask these simple questions. 

It's basically Fox vs. everyone else, which is why they all regularly attack Fox because it's the main organization standing in the way of their unified propaganda, errr I mean narrative, errr messaging, errrr "alternate facts"....I mean "news".

I have zero doubt that Tucker Carlson cherry-picked and misrepresented the footage.  Just as I have zero doubt the "bipartisan" Jan. 6th committee did.  The REAL outrage over that footage being given to Tucker wasn't national security or any other bullshit reason give....it was simply that there was now an equally biased counterpoint out there to oppose what was previously an extremely one-sided narrative.

The fact that the Libertarian party isn't massively surging after the last 6-8 years might say worse about the party itself than the general electorate.

posted by gut

The fact that the Libertarian party isn't massively surging after the last 6-8 years might say worse about the party itself than the general electorate.

The Libertarian party is not massively surging is because most Americans want to enforce their will on others.  It is like the clowns on the freeway that speed up when they see you moving into the passing lane cut over then slow walk you to pass the tractor trailer you both were coming up on.

Have all the people arrested for J6 been formally charged? For some reason, I keep thinking that there are still 2 that are being held without charges. 

As for the libertarian party, there is a lot of infighting going on under that umbrella. 

The Ron Paul church don't necessarily agree with the AnCap people.
The Mises Caucus doesn't agree with their retard faction.
And so on and so on. 

As someone who leans right but also likes a middle ground it’s because the Republicans are full of old fucks who are part of the problem and the left has gone crazy.  I need republicans to stop catering to the religious part of the party and focus on the economy again.

posted by sportchampps

As someone who leans right but also likes a middle ground it’s because the Republicans are full of old fucks who are part of the problem and the left has gone crazy.  I need republicans to stop catering to the religious part of the party and focus on the economy again.

Even as a "religious" person I agree. Focus on the economy and economic solvency (balanced budget first and foremost) and then worry about other crap. The economy should be the government's main priority after defense (notice I said defense, not war, our DOD budget could be cut in half if we stuck to only defending the USA).

posted by jmog

Even as a "religious" person I agree. Focus on the economy and economic solvency (balanced budget first and foremost) and then worry about other crap. The economy should be the government's main priority after defense (notice I said defense, not war, our DOD budget could be cut in half if we stuck to only defending the USA).

Some other big financial black holes: FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, ATF, DEA. The social programs need to be cut and reworked. 
But to your point, Defense budget needs huge major funding cuts. But we just opened up more bases in other countries, so that's not going to happen any time soon.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/daughter-of-judge-overseeing-trumps-case-worked-for-kamala-harris-campaign-now-serves-as-president-for-a-company-that-has-biden-harris-campaign-as-client/

Par for the course. 

Political prosecution; not sure how we can come back from this. 

posted by QuakerOats

Political prosecution; not sure how we can come back from this. 

Political persecution is what it is. 

Dems have realized that their news media friends didn't done much, their far reaching censorship hasn't done much, their impeachments haven't done much, their televised primetime J6 shows haven't done much and so they decided to jump into this. 

At this point I can't even envision myself voting for a democrat in local races. I'm just absolutely against the very idea of "democrat" in every possible way.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Political persecution is what it is. 

Dems have realized that their news media friends didn't done much, their far reaching censorship hasn't done much, their impeachments haven't done much, their televised primetime J6 shows haven't done much and so they decided to jump into this. 

At this point I can't even envision myself voting for a democrat in local races. I'm just absolutely against the very idea of "democrat" in every possible way.

No kidding?