LOCKED: Disgusted with progressives

This is what universities (Salisbury university in Maryland) are starting to teach, apparently. I'm not sure if any how many other unis are picking this up. Let's hope it stays in Maryland.

https://twitter.com/wiredsources/status/1011710666019954689?s=12

Can’t wait for one of these douche bags to get their bell rung

posted by CenterBHSFan

This is what universities (Salisbury university in Maryland) are starting to teach, apparently. I'm not sure if any how many other unis are picking this up. Let's hope it stays in Maryland.

Just curious. What part do you have a problem with specifically?

Indifference being labelled racism is nonsense, except to idiots.

Lol prioritizing intentions over impact. Is that like wishing for equal outcome over equal opportunity? 

Lol two sides to every story? Don’t even have to get out of the bottom block before it gets retarded. Don’t even have to get to denial of white privelage or things that don’t exist like cultural appropriation or reverse racism

posted by iclfan2

Lol two sides to every story? Don’t even have to get out of the bottom block before it gets retarded. 

There's a lot wrong with that, but that was the most egregious I quickly zeroed in on, as well.  But that's entirely consistent with attempting to shutdown debate by labeling people who disagree as racist.  A victim's story is unimpeachable?  Guilty until proven, errr, accusations are proof of guilt?

I also laughed at how "unjust police shootings" are the last step before genocide.  Has anyone coined the phrase "toxic libtardism" yet?

posted by queencitybuckeye

Indifference being labelled racism is nonsense, except to idiots.

 

Hgeeblock is just pretending that he doesn't know.

Some chick in NY just beat the incumbent who has been there for 10 terms by running with the democratic socialists and running on free Medicare for all and abolishing ICE, but she isn’t the mainstream guy’s! 

posted by geeblock

Just curious. What part do you have a problem with specifically?

Remaining apolitical is racists?

posted by iclfan2

Some chick in NY just beat the incumbent who has been there for 10 terms by running with the democratic socialists and running on free Medicare for all and abolishing ICE, but she isn’t the mainstream guy’s! 

I saw this.  She didn't just beat any incumbent.  Crowley was apparently going to be Nancy's replacement as house leader.  I am still wondering when the "normal" dems will get out of the Trump cloud and realize the DNC is no longer their party.

"Not all white people" is part of white supremacy?  

posted by iclfan2

Some chick in NY just beat the incumbent who has been there for 10 terms by running with the democratic socialists and running on free Medicare for all and abolishing ICE, but she isn’t the mainstream guy’s! 

You're right! She isn't mainstream. It's similar to Dave Brat beating Eric Cantor. Indicative of the rising power of the extremes within our two parties - which we might expect with these legislative districts where the only real threat to incumbents in most of them is from people who are more ideological - but that doesn't mean she's "mainstream".

posted by like_that

I saw this.  She didn't just beat any incumbent.  Crowley was apparently going to be Nancy's replacement as house leader.  I am still wondering when the "normal" dems will get out of the Trump cloud and realize the DNC is no longer their party.

It is the same as Dave Brat beating Eric Cantor. Crowley - while powerful and relatively normal - was out of touch with that district - same as Cantor was no longer in touch with his.

Saying these congressional races that flip to more extreme candidates doesn't reflect the will of the average GOP voter or the average Dem voter. It would be like saying because Ron Paul could win a single heavy (R) district that he represents the whole party. As the current GOP readily demonstrates - parties can be comprised of multiple factions. 

I don't doubt that "progressives" are getting more powerful within the Democratic Party just as trumpism is getting more powerful within the Republican Party - but let's talk when somebody with Ms. Cortez' platform can win the party's presidential nomination like Donald Trump won the GOP's nomination. 

What bothers me is that we're seeing these progressive candidates starting to just spew bullshit ideas that will fire up the base the way the Tea partiers do. "Abolish ICE" is the new progressive version of "Abolish the IRS" - it is so fucking stupid. Whatever you call it there has to be an agency that manages customs and immigration just like there has to be an agency that manages the treasury. 

You watch - progressives will start trying to say that you're not "woke" enough or a "true progressive" unless you want to Abolish ICE. So fucking stupid. 

I'll say this though too - wouldn't mind culturally appropriating dat ass. 

posted by BoatShoes

You watch - progressives will start trying to say that you're not "woke" enough or a "true progressive" unless you want to Abolish ICE. So fucking stupid. 

I'll agree with this. Going to be a bunch of clowns trying to one up each other. Open borders don't work (see Europe; either does socialism but that's pretty self explanatory) 

posted by BoatShoes

 

I don't doubt that "progressives" are getting more powerful within the Democratic Party just as trumpism is getting more powerful within the Republican Party - but let's talk when somebody with Ms. Cortez' platform can win the party's presidential nomination like Donald Trump won the GOP's nomination. 

 

I disagree. I think that, nationally, these things can and must be talked about right now. Those of us that were originally from the left and have slowly edged away from it or kicked out completely by this organic progressive movement must to talk about this now. We should be talkative, loud and spread the idea that this movement is no good and we don't want it. Republicans aren't going to do it. There's no magic wand to wave around. This is something that needs to be done from within, by principled classic liberal type of democrat.

posted by BoatShoes

You're right! She isn't mainstream. 

Shouldn't democrats be condemning this instead of cheering it on? Didn't Bernie get a decent amount of support before he was Hillary'd?  The move towards socialism (regardless of absurdities like Abolish ICE) should scare everyone.

posted by BoatShoes

It is the same as Dave Brat beating Eric Cantor. Crowley - while powerful and relatively normal - was out of touch with that district - same as Cantor was no longer in touch with his.

Saying these congressional races that flip to more extreme candidates doesn't reflect the will of the average GOP voter or the average Dem voter. It would be like saying because Ron Paul could win a single heavy (R) district that he represents the whole party. As the current GOP readily demonstrates - parties can be comprised of multiple factions. 

I don't doubt that "progressives" are getting more powerful within the Democratic Party just as trumpism is getting more powerful within the Republican Party - but let's talk when somebody with Ms. Cortez' platform can win the party's presidential nomination like Donald Trump won the GOP's nomination. 

 

I don't know man. As the pew research has shown, democrats in the last 2 years have gone significantly left while republicans still haven't jumped to their extreme.  You have Ellison and Bernie as the face of the party currently.  Schumer and Nancy even condemned Maxine's rhetoric, but they also angered people in the process.  At the very least there is a divide and the "normal" dems are afraid to address it, so they just allow these type of people to chip away at the their basic principles in order to keep their jobs. 

Edit:  Also, don't forget that a lot of those people who voted for Trump are people who used to feel the Democrats held their values. 

posted by BoatShoes

What bothers me is that we're seeing these progressive candidates starting to just spew bullshit ideas that will fire up the base the way the Tea partiers do. "Abolish ICE" is the new progressive version of "Abolish the IRS" - it is so fucking stupid. Whatever you call it there has to be an agency that manages customs and immigration just like there has to be an agency that manages the treasury. 

You watch - progressives will start trying to say that you're not "woke" enough or a "true progressive" unless you want to Abolish ICE. So fucking stupid. 

I called this during the primaries in 2015.  The DNC's version of the tea party movement is happening.  Unfortunately, these people are much more full retard than the GOP tea party members.
 

posted by BoatShoes

I'll say this though too - wouldn't mind culturally appropriating dat ass. 

Agreed.  Would bang the socialism out of her.