LOCKED: Disgusted with progressives

So apparently Al Franken is supposed to step down today after getting hit with several accusations of sexual assault. Makes me wonder how many politicians will see their way out in this era of sexual misconduct.

^Not surprised --- reading is not for everyone:

"Citing an anonymous and unidentified official, Reuters reported earlier Tuesday that Mueller’s team had subpoenaed records from Deutsche Bank, where Trump is believed to have a line of credit and to have conducted tens of millions of dollars in transactions."

posted by QuakerOats

^Not surprised --- reading is not for everyone:

 

"Citing an anonymous and unidentified official, Reuters reported earlier Tuesday that Mueller’s team had subpoenaed records from Deutsche Bank, where Trump is believed to have a line of credit and to have conducted tens of millions of dollars in transactions."

a Multi Billion dollar busniess man has a line of credit at a bank......shocker.  Tax dollars are being well spent on this witch hunt

posted by CenterBHSFan

So apparently Al Franken is supposed to step down today after getting hit with several accusations of sexual assault. Makes me wonder how many politicians will see their way out in this era of sexual misconduct.

Meanwhile, the Rs are bending over backwards to endorse an accused pedo, so they can maintain a majority in the Senate.

Read today that the one accuser has a stepson who says she is lying.  The other accuser has a brother who was sent to jail by Moore.  

Hard to know the truth.

posted by Heretic

Meanwhile, the Rs are bending over backwards to endorse an accused pedo, so they can maintain a majority in the Senate.

Franken is giving his speech right now or may be done with it by now, I don't know. But I agree with you.

Honestly, I dont have any vested interest in either Franken or Moore (meaning that I don't live in either of their respective states). I think Franken is doing the right thing and that Moore is not. On the other hand as I've said before, if I were accused of doing something that I did not do, I would go to my grave denying it and proving myself innocent. I think that due process of the law should not be ignored in either instance. 

All I can say is that I'm glad that the nationwide discussion is being had at this time. 

posted by CenterBHSFan

I think Franken is doing the right thing and that Moore is not. 

The situations are not identical, though.  Franken can step down, and run-off or appointed successor will be a Democrat.  The allegations against Moore came out too late to put a different Repub name on the ballot.  A write-in alternate is a nice solution, but a guaranteed failure in practice.

posted by QuakerOats

Read today that the one accuser has a stepson who says she is lying.  The other accuser has a brother who was sent to jail by Moore.  

 

Hard to know the truth.

All said while using the exact opposite reasoning with regard to any allegation - however suspect - against Hillary, Obama, etc. 

posted by Spock

a Multi Billion dollar busniess man has a line of credit at a bank......shocker.  Tax dollars are being well spent on this witch hunt

law enforcement agencies don't issue subpoenas unless they have reason to believe that they will ascertain evidence of crime. Hope that helps. 

posted by BoatShoes

law enforcement agencies don't issue subpoenas unless they have reason to believe that they will ascertain evidence of crime. Hope that helps. 

I don't think that's entirely accurate, not with respect to routine info gathering such as financials (i.e. they will subpoena financial records as part of an investigation whether they expect to find evidence or not).

posted by gut

I think Franken is doing the right thing and that Moore is not. 

The situations are not identical, though.  Franken can step down, and run-off or appointed successor will be a Democrat.  The allegations against Moore came out too late to put a different Repub name on the ballot.  A write-in alternate is a nice solution, but a guaranteed failure in practice.

Well, you're right in so far as politics goes. But I was referring to something much different - the right thing to do. They rarely mean the same thing! lol

posted by BoatShoes

law enforcement agencies don't issue subpoenas unless they have reason to believe that they will ascertain evidence of crime. Hope that helps. 

the FBI is corrupt and playing politics....they seem to be breaking the mold.

posted by Spock

the FBI is corrupt and playing politics....they seem to be breaking the mold.

Nope.... they are all high on Obama juice

posted by BoatShoes

All said while using the exact opposite reasoning with regard to any allegation - however suspect - against Hillary, Obama, etc. 

Beverly Young Nelson tells ABC News she forged a portion of the high school yearbook inscription she and attorney Gloria Allred presented as evidence Republican Roy Moore made advances on her when she was a high school student and he was a local prosecutor.

More on this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/08/roy-moore-accuser-admits-forged-part-yearbook-inscription-attributed-to-alabama-senate-candidate.html
 

My, my .........

posted by QuakerOats

 

 

 

Beverly Young Nelson tells ABC News she forged a portion of the high school yearbook inscription she and attorney Gloria Allred presented as evidence Republican Roy Moore made advances on her when she was a high school student and he was a local prosecutor.

More on this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/08/roy-moore-accuser-admits-forged-part-yearbook-inscription-attributed-to-alabama-senate-candidate.html
 

 

 

My, my .........

The media isnt listening to that.

posted by QuakerOats

 

 

 

Beverly Young Nelson tells ABC News she forged a portion of the high school yearbook inscription she and attorney Gloria Allred presented as evidence Republican Roy Moore made advances on her when she was a high school student and he was a local prosecutor.

More on this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/08/roy-moore-accuser-admits-forged-part-yearbook-inscription-attributed-to-alabama-senate-candidate.html
 

 

 

My, my .........

Care to post the ABC link and actual quotes?

I like how you just post Fox News stuff. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Care to post the ABC link and actual quotes?

I like how you just post Fox News stuff. 

I read this yesterday somewhere else.  Its true.

posted by Spock

I read this yesterday somewhere else.  Its true.

LOL.

Context and source man. You are in the school system, even you should know the difference between a primary and secondary source. 

If the story says ABC reported, then cite the actual ABC story and transcript. 

posted by Devils Advocate

 

Nope.... they are all high on Obama juice

 

I don't know if the gif was meant to overlay the quoted text, but I laughed. 

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/roy-moore-accuser-beverly-young-nelson-pray-hes/story?id=51666016

Here's an ABC story -- the first I found by typing her name and ABC, although I don't know if it's the one Fox was referring to. She says he signed it and she added notes under it, which would be the date and a location (which are pretty obviously in different handwriting than anything else located in the message). Dumb of her to not immediately disclose she added those context notes to it, because the Breitbarts and QQs of the world are obviously jumping all over that shit with their "Well, if this is a bit fishy, NO ALLEGATIONS EVER AGAINST HIM HAVE MEANING!!!!!!" insinuations.