Disgusted by the Trump administration part II

posted by jmog

Working with is not the same as working for, hope that helps.

Again, you haven't worked for one of these companies if you don't understand the vast waste of time and money most of these programs are, they are a huge resource sink hole.

I am not even saying they have bad intentions or are bad people, most of them are great and are really trying to do good and believe in their ideology. But that's a shit ton of salaries in a department that doesn't change anything other than making everyone else go through monthly or quarterly DEI training, which is ALWAYS repetitive (same shit we saw last quarter).

So my company has over 66,000 employees world wide. Thats roughly 250,000 man hours of DEI training each and every year which basically boils down to "don't treat people like shit, be nice to everyone" which every human being already knows. We all know you don't act like a fool at work if you want to keep working.

So if the average hourly wage from low end to CEO is $40/hr (probably close for us) that's $10,000,000 per year used up on DEI training on top of whatever all of the DEI employees make year round.

I'm not saying that is a total loss, because sure, maybe a couple people didn't know they shouldn't be an asshole or that they couldn't pass up someone for a promotion just because they are black, but in 2023 that is like 1 person in that 66,000 employees. 

Do you guys have a Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer? We're about 5000 employees and have recently added that title to our leadership team. Not saying I agree or disagree with it, but it now exists. We also have a VP of ESG.

The DEI stuff at our place hasn't been terrible. I don't think anything has been mandatory, but they do bribe you with points that can increase the company contribution to your health savings, etc. My wife is dealing with it at the University level and it seems to be the kind of joke you would expect at a large state school.

I’ve been a supporter of DEI for over 30 years. I never got the fax that It didn’t stand for Dale Earnhardt Incorporated anymore

posted by justincredible

Do you guys have a Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer? We're about 5000 employees and have recently added that title to our leadership team. Not saying I agree or disagree with it, but it now exists. We also have a VP of ESG.

The DEI stuff at our place hasn't been terrible. I don't think anything has been mandatory, but they do bribe you with points that can increase the company contribution to your health savings, etc. My wife is dealing with it at the University level and it seems to be the kind of joke you would expect at a large state school.

We have all that shit, but not sure if its the same exact title or not. We have a whole group in each "region's" HR department for DEI.

At face value I don't really care if Trump is indicted/arrested. He's not a family member or even my friend.

But the shit show going on is cringe. The political persecution that has now gone on for years is tiresome. And I have to wonder if, as a body, the dems understand what they are doing, think about consequences. We all know what their strategy is - but are they really betting that the outcome they want (Trump to never be president again) is worth what will come after?

I have to ask the Biden voters on here: Is this one of the minute reasons that you voted for Biden? Did you think that things like this would keep going on or did you think that it would stop once a dem won the presidency? Did you vote for Biden out of ideological habit? Or was Trump so crass that putting up with all of this was worth it to you? Did you think that Biden had better foreign/domestic agendas? Was it his promises of diversity hires (first black this, first gay that, first trans, first non-binary, etc.)?

posted by CenterBHSFan

I have to ask the Biden voters on here: Is this one of the minute reasons that you voted for Biden? Did you think that things like this would keep going on or did you think that it would stop once a dem won the presidency? Did you vote for Biden out of ideological habit? Or was Trump so crass that putting up with all of this was worth it to you? Did you think that Biden had better foreign/domestic agendas? Was it his promises of diversity hires (first black this, first gay that, first trans, first non-binary, etc.)?

DEI is a grift, as is ESG. Just more ways for liberals to project their garbage social policies. Not surprised Gblock supports it. OSU supposedly has over 80 DEI employees, that’s absurd and adds 0 value, especially for the top line. 

Equity- literally not letting in the best students into colleges to fit a quota, lowering scoring for professions like doctors and pilots, letting violent criminals out on bail.

Inclusion- letting boys play in girls sports, letting mentally ill children be mutilated, big corporations promotions mentally ill trans people to boost their social credit score. 

No thanks. Also LOL that Chicago voted in one of the most liberal mayors in the country. Let it burn. 

posted by iclfan2

DEI is a grift, as is ESG. Just more ways for liberals to project their garbage social policies. Not surprised Gblock supports it. OSU supposedly has over 80 DEI employees, that’s absurd and adds 0 value, especially for the top line. 

Equity- literally not letting in the best students into colleges to fit a quota, lowering scoring for professions like doctors and pilots, letting violent criminals out on bail.

Inclusion- letting boys play in girls sports, letting mentally ill children be mutilated, big corporations promotions mentally ill trans people to boost their social credit score. 

No thanks. Also LOL that Chicago voted in one of the most liberal mayors in the country. Let it burn. 

It can be hard to see all the power shift from straight white males but I promise you will be ok. MLK was brought up on this thread and your hot take and some others reminds me of this hot take from the day after the I have a dream speech. 

posted by geeblock

It can be hard to see all the power shift from straight white males but I promise you will be ok. MLK was brought up on this thread and your hot take and some others reminds me of this hot take from the day after the I have a dream speech. 

posted by geeblock

It can be hard to see all the power shift from straight white males but I promise you will be ok. MLK was brought up on this thread and your hot take and some others reminds me of this hot take from the day after the I have a dream speech. 

Kind of hypocritical to call me condescending when you post shit like this “It can be hard to see all the power shift from straight white males but you will be ok.”

Kind of lost all credibility with that one chief.

Women couldn't vote before I was born. 

muh oppression!

posted by CenterBHSFan

Women couldn't vote before I was born. 

muh oppression!

Yea I mean that’s definitely an apples to apples comparison. You just slayed me lol . 

posted by geeblock

Yea I mean that’s definitely an apples to apples comparison. You just slayed me lol . 

How do you know what it's like to be born into a culture and life of womanhood, gee? How do you know what it is like to be born a female and knowing everything that's happened to women throughout history? How do you know what it's like to currently be a female knowing the injustices that are acted upon other women? 

All through history women were traded like chattel to be used as breeders, often for such trivial amounts like 17 goats. 

Women throughout history, with no way to feed themselves or any begotten children, resorting to selling their bodies for food and clothing. This degradation continues and we women shudder with horror when we consider this every day.

In the last few hundred years, women were often married to men not of their own choosing and, at times, met their husband for the first time at the altar. 

The very thought of the Malleus MALEficarum still brings a shiver of fear down the spine down our spines because the great witch hunt in Europe was perpetrated on mainly women.  All of the fear, mutilations, killings that were done to those women are still felt to this very day.

Artful and brilliant women writers, painters, sculptors, etc. worked in disguise either through appearance or pseudonyms just to be recognized for their work. All women feel the fatigue of it all to this day. 

When women were fighting for the right to vote, poor Emily Davison was savagely mowed down by a horse while she was trying to bring awareness to the victimhood of women. Countless other women beaten, imprisoned, sexually assaulted, maimed for life and even killed for our cause. Their struggles are still felt to this day.

Consider how much it stings when we women realize that republicans elected a black man into Congress in 1870, long before a woman was elected to Congress in 1917. Imagine what forty seven years difference it was! Women still feel this to this day.

Currently, there are unimaginable numbers of women being sold and traded as goods in the various slave trades. Women right now in large areas around the world can't even leave their house without covering their face and hair, lest some man desire them. Women all around the globe wake up each day feeling the pain and shame of this. 

All that I have listed, and a host of other examples, are true. Now think about how pointless it is to use those past injustices for every damn argument under the sun. What a waste of time. People have ridden that foundered horse until it can't walk anymore - to the point where most of society feels more badly for the horse than they do for the people riding it. 

But here's old geeblock posting old articles about MLK like it's going to help something today; going to help him win some sort of argument or debate. 

I have a dream! I have a dream that geeblock will admit that people of all persuasions, then and now, are flawed and will always use past grievances as weapons of manipulation to get what they want. It's just human nature. Sometimes groups win and sometimes those same groups lose. But we continue on living our daily lives without thinking of any of that shit. We aren't the Borg. We don't feel what happened to somebody else a month ago, let alone 40, 100, 500 years ago and so on. 

But what we do experience today is the progress that was made yesterday. I think we can all agree on that. 

Comparing what women have went through to what black people have went through and continue to go through is not apples to apples sorry .  I’m also all for helping women which is also a part of dei. It doesn’t have to be either or. 

“ no one is trying to use that for everything under the sun” that’s just stupid. 

I do also understand how it can be hard to understand or recognize discrimination or be sympathetic to it when you haven’t had to experience it. 

posted by geeblock

I do also understand how it can be hard to understand or recognize discrimination or be sympathetic to it when you haven’t had to experience it. 

This could be a true statement.

posted by geeblock

I do also understand how it can be hard to understand or recognize discrimination or be sympathetic to it when you haven’t had to experience it. 

Lol, still being condescending I see. 

You can’t make this shit up.