Disgusted by the Trump administration part II

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Wed, Dec 6, 2017 3:45 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

(I also think this is a play to the religious base of the R party) 

 

 

Oh I think that's a clear cut case of it. But to add what you've said, I also think it's against the part of the left that has an Israel prejudice.

majorspark Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 6, 2017 3:50 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

(I also think this is a play to the religious base of the R party) 

 

A factor.  But....

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/06/top-dem-told-trump-to-declare-jerusalem-israels-capital/

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-resolution/167/text

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 6, 2017 4:00 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/363555-obama-warns-of-complacency-notes-rise-of-hitler

What is most terrifying about Trump's rise is that, for America's first brush with an Authoritarian, he is a fucking idiot and we are still struggling to contain him.

" we (The People) " are not ................the deep state, the permanent bureaucracy, and the liberal media are. 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Dec 6, 2017 4:04 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/363555-obama-warns-of-complacency-notes-rise-of-hitler

What is most terrifying about Trump's rise is that, for America's first brush with an Authoritarian, he is a fucking idiot and we are still struggling to contain him.

Ehh, I think it's kind of tacky for the former president to be publically bashing the current one, especially so soon. Didn't see GW doing it to Obama, even after 8 years.

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Wed, Dec 6, 2017 4:05 PM
posted by iclfan2

Ehh, I think it's kind of tacky for the former president to be publically bashing the current one, especially so soon. Didn't see GW doing it to Obama, even after 8 years.

I think our current president is nothing but tacky. If obama was pulling the same shit Trump/GOP are pulling, I would call it GW's duty to call it out.

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 6, 2017 4:10 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/363555-obama-warns-of-complacency-notes-rise-of-hitler

What is most terrifying about Trump's rise is that, for America's first brush with an Authoritarian, he is a fucking idiot and we are still struggling to contain him.

I think the most terrifying thing is how many people believe Trump, Clinton and Obama aren't all cut from the same cloth - all a complete disgrace to leadership, transparency and honesty.

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 6, 2017 4:17 PM
posted by iclfan2

Ehh, I think it's kind of tacky for the former president to be publically bashing the current one, especially so soon. Didn't see GW doing it to Obama, even after 8 years.

 

Holy crap warning Americans about to be concerned about Hitler with respect to the POTUS?!?!?  Holy shit.

majorspark Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 12:39 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

 

Peace is a pipe dream for everyone as long as Hamas is a thing and has any sort of control, which they do. 

It's not Hamas.  It's Iran and they have their proxy on the northern front Hezzbollah.  It's why the Sauidi response is nothing more than lip service.  They are of no fan of the Iranians who are attempting to gain a foothold on the Arabian peninsula.  Hamas is a proxy of Iran on the southern front. 

Ditto Egypt they just had these shitbags blow up a mosque killing over 300.  The leadership of Egypt and Jordan have long since accepted reality and are tired of the violence and made peace.  Iran and Syria not so.  Both an Egyptian and Isreali leader were assassinated for their attempts to achieve peace.

majorspark Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 1:57 AM
posted by Commander of Awesome

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/363555-obama-warns-of-complacency-notes-rise-of-hitler

What is most terrifying about Trump's rise is that, for America's first brush with an Authoritarian, he is a fucking idiot and we are still struggling to contain him.

This is not Americas first brush with an authoritarian not in a long shot.  Though I may disagree with some of the judicial overreach and believe some to be unconstitutional its good to see the founders design of the three coequel branches of the federal government ramming horns.  A single member of the judicial branch in Hawaii halted an order of the POTUS.  And the executive complied and appealed to higher levels of the judicial branch.  They won and had they lost they would have accepted the ruling of the SCOTUS. That does not happen in an authoritarian regime.

I'll add this the POTUS as a coequel member of the federal goverment is fully empowered by the constitution to reject a ruling of the judical branch on its unconstitutionality and the judicial branch has no power to do anything about it (I know this died with Marbury v Madison).  Only the legisative branch holds the authority to remove another branches member from office.

Sleep easy barring any Russian meddling you will be in better spirits a year from now.  

kizer permanente Senior Member
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QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 12:16 PM

"A senior Justice Department official was demoted this week amid an ongoing investigation into his contacts with the opposition research firm responsible for the anti-Trump “dossier,” Fox News is told."

 

 

 

Imagine that 


 

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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 1:03 PM
posted by QuakerOats

"A senior Justice Department official was demoted this week amid an ongoing investigation into his contacts with the opposition research firm responsible for the anti-Trump “dossier,” Fox News is told."

 

 

 

Imagine that 


 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/07/top-doj-official-demoted-amid-probe-contacts-with-trump-dossier-firm.html

Here is the link, which come on, you know, to provide. 

In relation to the story: Deep State! 
 

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 7, 2017 3:32 PM

I agree with Jim Jordan ----------  Strzok was the one who assembled the dossier bullshit for presentation to FISA

 

 

Major problems ahead for FBI and DoJ

superman Senior Member
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Fri, Dec 8, 2017 9:29 AM
posted by Commander of Awesome

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/363555-obama-warns-of-complacency-notes-rise-of-hitler

What is most terrifying about Trump's rise is that, for America's first brush with an Authoritarian, he is a fucking idiot and we are still struggling to contain him.

Says the man who used the IRS to attack his political opponents.   

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Fri, Dec 8, 2017 10:42 AM
posted by superman

Says the man who used the IRS to attack his political opponents.   

And the guy who hates guns (the irony of OMG hitler, embraced divide/conquer, abused executive powers, etc you can go all day long.

 

Obama and Trump in many instances are one in the same.  The only difference is Obama is more graceful (i.e. attacking media) and he has more fan boys/girls. I still have Obama fan boys telling me that was a top 5 president of all time.  LOL.

 

Edit:  This is also coming from the party who embraces FDR as their poster child.  Pick up a history book and try to tell me what Trump is doing now is worse than a lot of the shit FDR pulled off or tried to pull off.

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Dec 8, 2017 11:09 AM
posted by like_that

I still have Obama fan boys telling me that was a top 5 president of all time.  LOL.

Yeah, like how he "saved" us from another Great Depression, even though the recession was on its way to ending by the time he was sworn in (it was over less than 6 months after he took office, so it's unlikely he did much of anything that wasn't already happening).

And then 8 years of being told "it's the new normal" and other falsehoods like "recovery after financial recessions are always slower and longer" as excuses for a weak economy.....Trump gets in and markets and economy respond very positively (as many predicted would if you got someone pro-growth in there)....and people want to give Obama the credit for that, too, despite it pretty clearly being the case that his subpar economy had A LOT to do with his policies.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Dec 8, 2017 11:37 AM

Precisely.  When central planners attempt to 'manage' a free market capitalist economy using marxist policies, you are in for trouble.  Had this been any other country its economy would not have survived, and the term 'new normal' would have been immortalized forever.  Thankfully, we had just enough resilience to squeak by, and now having been blessed by God with the right election outcome, have a chance to get back on track.  Incredible how close we were to going over the cliff.  But the fight will never be over. 

gut Senior Member
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Fri, Dec 8, 2017 1:06 PM
posted by QuakerOats

  Incredible how close we were to going over the cliff.  But the fight will never be over. 

The bottom can still fall out quickly and severely if Republicans don't start moving the agenda thru Congress.

I'm also very concerned that much of the "growth" or "recovery" is more unstable than the Bush economy.  Basically that fiscal policy on steroids - more temp jobs, more low-quality jobs, an economy artificially juiced by absurdly easy money....I am not remotely optimistic that the next recession won't be worse than the last, not unless we get this economy onto firmer ground.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Fri, Dec 8, 2017 1:51 PM

No doubt, a long way to go yet.  But with total household wealth up to $96 trillion, after hitting $56 trillion in the recession, there is some backing.

24,621 posts 243 reps Joined May 2010
Tue, Dec 12, 2017 12:48 PM

Right up Sleeper's alley:

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/grandparents-raiding-grandchildren/548117/?utm_source=feed

 

"The wealthiest, highest-income age cohort also is now those Boomers nearing retirement. The second wealthiest? Those already in retirement.

Who’s not doing well in the current economy? Younger Americans. (This is even more true for children: The poverty rate amongst children in America has now risen above 20 percent.) And they’re being asked to cover a heavier and heavier burden for the old: When Social Security was launched, there were 42 workers paying Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes for each individual retiree. Today, that ratio has fallen to just under three-to-one, and will fall again as the Boomers retire. Every young couple today can expect to foot the bill for a Boomer’s retirement—not counting, of course, their own parents."

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