Conspiracy thread

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  • Fri, Jul 19, 2019 3:04 PM
    posted by ptown_trojans_1

    Obama convinced Trump to run because he hates the Clintons so much. 

     

     

    Fri, Jul 19, 2019 9:27 PM
    posted by Spock

    The "send her back" chant at the Trump rally was started by a dem mole planted in there to get the media gotcha moment

    Thu, Jul 25, 2019 9:18 AM

    Looks like the Clintons fail at their first Suicide attempt.  Epstein is still alive.

    Thu, Jul 25, 2019 9:54 AM

    I can believe he'd off himself, given the position he's in.  I mean, his choices are effectively (a) go to prison for the rest of his natural life, or (b) try to cut a deal by pissing off a bunch of rich and powerful people who have already shown they have no problem victimizing people and breaking the law.

    Thu, Jul 25, 2019 10:48 AM
    posted by Spock

    Looks like the Clintons fail at their 58th Suicide attempt.  Epstein is still alive.

     

     

    FIFY

     

     

    The first 57 went smoothly

    Thu, Jul 25, 2019 1:21 PM
    posted by O-Trap

    I can believe he'd off himself, given the position he's in.  I mean, his choices are effectively (a) go to prison for the rest of his natural life, or (b) try to cut a deal by pissing off a bunch of rich and powerful people who have already shown they have no problem victimizing people and breaking the law.

    Well, there's unknown option C) that he already mostly beat federal charges.  I wouldn't bet he gets convicted.  I could see the charges mysteriously being dropped, or dismissed by a judge.  If all you have is one new witness (no idea), that's probably not enough for a jury even if she's a good witness.

    I'm not sure ratting on powerful people will help him - because you're assuming NY or the feds want to charge those people (Trump, sure, but not anyone else).  But if he has the goods, those powerful people are already putting the fix in on his behalf (like, I assume, they did before).

    Thu, Jul 25, 2019 2:32 PM
    posted by gut

    Well, there's unknown option C) that he already mostly beat federal charges.  I wouldn't bet he gets convicted.  I could see the charges mysteriously being dropped, or dismissed by a judge.  If all you have is one new witness (no idea), that's probably not enough for a jury even if she's a good witness.

    I'm not sure ratting on powerful people will help him - because you're assuming NY or the feds want to charge those people (Trump, sure, but not anyone else).  But if he has the goods, those powerful people are already putting the fix in on his behalf (like, I assume, they did before).

    The C option is possible, sure.

    As for the state or fed wanting to charge them, they'd still theoretically get crucified in the public, and it might open them up to an increased need for security, as I'm betting there would be vigilante nutballs trying to take matters into their own hands.

    I'm sure that anyone relevant would be trying to help his case, but if there's any reasonable possibility that you get outed, how long do you let it go before trying to just keep him quiet?

    Thu, Jul 25, 2019 3:19 PM
    posted by O-Trap

    I'm sure that anyone relevant would be trying to help his case, but if there's any reasonable possibility that you get outed, how long do you let it go before trying to just keep him quiet?

    The problem with the conspiracy theory is he was already convicted and served time.  And the "silence him" crowd just sits on their thumbs waiting for the other shoe to drop?

    Pedo's are the lowest of the low in jail.  I'm sure there are plenty of inmates who'd be happy to murder a rich pedo.  And they would do it for free, without any prodding.

    Thu, Jul 25, 2019 3:24 PM
    posted by gut

    The problem with the conspiracy theory is he was already convicted and served time.  And the "silence him" crowd just sits on their thumbs waiting for the other shoe to drop?

    Pedo's are the lowest of the low in jail.  I'm sure there are plenty of inmates who'd be happy to murder a rich pedo.  And they would do it for free, without any prodding.

    Sure.  Another reason why it's perfectly plausible ... I'd even say probable ... that this could have been just himself trying to end it.

    Thu, Jul 25, 2019 3:35 PM

    I think I've asked this before: But isn't this double jeapordy or does it apply in this instance? 

    Thu, Jul 25, 2019 3:52 PM
    posted by CenterBHSFan

    I think I've asked this before: But isn't this double jeapordy or does it apply in this instance? 

    1) I believe these are state charges.  You can, in fact, be charged for the same crime by the feds and also by the state.

    2) I think double jeopardy also does not apply because they have one or more new witnesses not involved in the previous case.

    Thu, Jul 25, 2019 4:21 PM

    So Tulsi Gabbard is suing Google for $50M because her ad account was blocked/deactivated after the debate when she was getting a surge in traffic.

     

    Legit, or elaborate scheme to skirt campaign finance laws and have Google give her campaign tens of millions of dollars via "settlement"?

    Thu, Jul 25, 2019 4:58 PM
    posted by gut

    So Tulsi Gabbard is suing Google for $50M because her ad account was blocked/deactivated after the debate when she was getting a surge in traffic.

     

    Legit, or elaborate scheme to skirt campaign finance laws and have Google give her campaign tens of millions of dollars via "settlement"?

    There's a very real possibility that she could make a case for her losses to be in the millions as a result of having the account shut down.

    Not sure what she would accuse Google of doing, though.  It's their business and their ad platform.

    Thu, Jul 25, 2019 5:26 PM
    posted by O-Trap

    There's a very real possibility that she could make a case for her losses to be in the millions as a result of having the account shut down.

    $50M?  Even $1M over a few hours, possibly a day?  $6M for these campaigns at this stage is a big haul over a MONTH.  I would guess her damages are more realistically in the low six-figures.

    Which is why I threw it into the conspiracy thread.  $50M?  Would that money go to Gabbard, or her campaign?  In either event, you see the problem.  If Google settles for just a few million, it should perhaps be investigated as a campaign finance violation.

    That would be a neat trick.  Have Elon Musk say something defamatory about Kamala.  She sues him for slander, and then he can write a big fat settlement check.

    Thu, Jul 25, 2019 6:19 PM

    Well, Google has been under scrutiny for suppressing free information (iirc), stifling competing companies, and teaming up with other tech valley companies to banish certain people. It's not just your average competition when you team up with other industries such as other social media like youtube and even the banking industry. There's some pretty shady stuff going on once you dig beneath the surface.  
    With all of this going on I can easily believe that they stifled a political figure. It's probably going to happen again if they get away with picking political winners and losers the first time. Very scary thought when you think about what they've been up to. I'm going to guess that's the reason why the amount Gabbard is suing for is so large - not to mention it shines a very big light on things.

    Thu, Jul 25, 2019 7:41 PM
    posted by gut

    $50M?  Even $1M over a few hours, possibly a day?  $6M for these campaigns at this stage is a big haul over a MONTH.  I would guess her damages are more realistically in the low six-figures.

    Which is why I threw it into the conspiracy thread.  $50M?  Would that money go to Gabbard, or her campaign?  In either event, you see the problem.  If Google settles for just a few million, it should perhaps be investigated as a campaign finance violation.

    That would be a neat trick.  Have Elon Musk say something defamatory about Kamala.  She sues him for slander, and then he can write a big fat settlement check.

    I'm not saying I believe her, but with a high enough ad-spend, it's absolutely possible to get there with PPC in a day.
    I don't know what normal ranges are for AdWords campaigns used in politics, but it's not impossible.

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