posted by wkfanCNN is just worse because they never try to hide their agenda.
If you watch the straight news folks on Fox - Baier, Wallace, Cavuto, Shep...basically the non-primetime folks, it's decent. CNN's straight news has become pretty biased, to the point they almost offer more opinion than actual facts.
posted by gutIf you watch the straight news folks on Fox - Baier, Wallace, Cavuto, Shep...basically the non-primetime folks, it's decent. CNN's straight news has become pretty biased, to the point they almost offer more opinion than actual facts.
There is nothing decent about Fox News or pretty much any media outlet these days.
posted by SportsAndLadyThere is nothing decent about Fox News or pretty much any media outlet these days.
You obviously don't watch Baier of Wallace or other straight news reporters on Fox, and associate the network only with Hannity.
posted by gutYou obviously don't watch Baier of Wallace or other straight news reporters on Fox, and associate the network only with Hannity.
The hosts like Bret Baier and Wallace aren't the ones doing the shilling on those shows - they get to hide behind the nut jobs they put on the "All Star Panel" who do the shilling. Baier, Shep and Wallace of had their moments during the Trump presidency but look they have to feel somewhat culpabable in setting loose Frankenstein's monster. The Murdoch sons (I saw one of them gave a max contribution to Buttigieg) I think are going to slowly turn the tide away from what their Father built.
But IMHO debating whether MSNBC, CNN, Fox News are the greatest shills for their cause is pointless. They are all terrible for America. Anybody with a life should not have that much time for news that is really filtering liberal or conservative propaganda.. Just turn off cable news altogether. The only tv news I watch is the local CBS news and Jeff Glor on the CBS evening news if I catch it before Jeopardy. Being a dad now with much less news and political commentary consumption - my sense is that it was better this way than the current world of endless political news and commentary.
posted by SportsAndLadyThere is nothing decent about Fox News or pretty much any media outlet these days.
Any chance you're a barstool sports fan?
posted by like_thatAny chance you're a barstool sports fan?
I don’t really follow them, no. When I see something from there, though, I typically enjoy it.
posted by gutYou obviously don't watch Baier of Wallace or other straight news reporters on Fox, and associate the network only with Hannity.
It’s garbage news.
posted by BoatShoesThe hosts like Bret Baier and Wallace aren't the ones doing the shilling on those shows - they get to hide behind the nut jobs they put on the "All Star Panel" who do the shilling. Baier, Shep and Wallace of had their moments during the Trump presidency but look they have to feel somewhat culpabable in setting loose Frankenstein's monster. The Murdoch sons (I saw one of them gave a max contribution to Buttigieg) I think are going to slowly turn the tide away from what their Father built.
But IMHO debating whether MSNBC, CNN, Fox News are the greatest shills for their cause is pointless. They are all terrible for America. Anybody with a life should not have that much time for news that is really filtering liberal or conservative propaganda.. Just turn off cable news altogether. The only tv news I watch is the local CBS news and Jeff Glor on the CBS evening news if I catch it before Jeopardy. Being a dad now with much less news and political commentary consumption - my sense is that it was better this way than the current world of endless political news and commentary.
One of the Murdoch sons is a lib, the other is a conservative.
posted by SportsAndLadyI don’t really follow them, no. When I see something from there, though, I typically enjoy it.
Gotcha, my reference won't really apply then.
posted by SportsAndLadyIt’s garbage news.
its just less garbage as the others
Ok.....Why is CNN main story at this moment a bunch of "good economy" stories? THey dont report news straight up. THere has to either be a trump slam or Dem bump in there.
No one seems to think well of CNN. Fine. But why keep watching it and keeping track of it? Who cares?
So I see that the main story tonight is that Mueller wrote Barr a letter that he didnt like what he said about investigation. Really? This is news?
posted by SpockSo I see that the main story tonight is that Mueller wrote Barr a letter that he didnt like what he said about investigation. Really? This is news?
Article also says “When Barr pressed him whether he thought Barr’s letter was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not, but felt that the media coverage of the letter was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said.”
But twitter losers, CNN especially, are acting like it’s some conspiracy and Barr should be impeached. Laughable.
posted by iclfan2But twitter losers, CNN especially, are acting like it’s some conspiracy and Barr should be impeached. Laughable.
I suppose they don't really care if Barr and Mueller testifying blows up in their face.....it's just a chance to grandstand. I think we can predict Congress will be doing most of the testifying.
posted by BoatShoesThe hosts like Bret Baier and Wallace aren't the ones doing the shilling on those shows - they get to hide behind the nut jobs they put on the "All Star Panel" who do the shilling.
The panels are almost always bipartisan and Baier/Wallace/etc don't take side or a position. Not sure what program you're watching.
I'm guessing you may be like another poster I saw a while back who watched the same program I did - got triggered by the far right perspective and completely missed the moderate left/right and far left perspectives. It was hilarious - he literally blacked out and missed 2 of the 4 perspectives were Democrat arguments.
posted by gutI suppose they don't really care if Barr and Mueller testifying blows up in their face.....it's just a chance to grandstand. I think we can predict Congress will be doing most of the testifying.
You beat me to it. They are going to be extremely disappointed when the Mueller testimony confirms he does not disagree with Barr's summary. The testimony is when the left will fully turn on Mueller.
“The special counsel emphasized that nothing in the attorney general’s March 24 letter was inaccurate or misleading,”
It’s as if people cannot read and comprehend.
If nothing was inaccurate or misleading, why did Mueller not like what he had to say about it? It'd have to be one of those 2 you'd think?
Hoax purveyors see ratings collapse.
Maybe fake news will die off completely at some point.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/441557-cnn-sees-ratings-swoon-in-april
