2024 Presidential Election Thread

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Mon, Aug 19, 2024 7:58 PM

Kamala will come out with stuff people like or she won’t. I hold that ultimately most  people don’t really care about these campaign positions (except the hard core bases).  I think most people ultimately vote for president based upon their instinct or gut feel as to who is the better person to face certain, and not-yet-known challenges that will come during the term.  Most campaign points never make it further than the cutting room floor once the election passes.  How someone feels about tips for waiters or student loan applications or obtaining drilling rights are things to talk about now.  But in reality, I think most people will vote for the person they “feel” the best about - however that is defined at the individual’s level.


You can make compelling points about why neither of these two have this quality.  But each of us who votes will ultimately find one of them has more pros than cons.  Most, probably will not be swayed by platforms because most people innately know that stuff is irrelevant and unlikely to be realized anyway.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Mon, Aug 19, 2024 10:25 PM

Listening to Raskin at the convention. He's still going on about fascism and all that other nonsense. 

Does anybody still believe any of that?

queencitybuckeye Senior Member
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 6:18 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Listening to Raskin at the convention. He's still going on about fascism and all that other nonsense. 

Does anybody still believe any of that?

About as much as the other side throwing around terms like communism. Equal opportunity dumb.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 6:59 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Listening to Raskin at the convention. He's still going on about fascism and all that other nonsense. 

Does anybody still believe any of that?

Trump spent the weekend calling Harris a communist and Marxist.  


This is the level we are on.  


CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 10:33 AM

But, Trump¡?!

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 10:45 AM

Did anybody watch Biden's speech last night? It was a little hard to watch. All I could think was that, everybody has done him dirty. From his "friends" in govt to his own damn family. Absolutely despicable, the whole lot.

Putting aside his politics, if you can, somebody like that could be given at least a little bit of kindness. At least. But all of them are only kind and empathetic when the mic/camera is on. I wouldn't have blamed him if he looked them all in the eye and told them to go to Hell. But that's where they will end up, anyway.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 11:05 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

In this election, like most, it is an either or.....

Pick a side.

99% of people will choose freedom, economic freedom, and capitalism, over socialism, Marxism and communism, if properly informed. 

Venezuela was destroyed in one generation.  Many of our cities are already heading down the path. 


Picking a side is easy.




Devils Advocate Brudda o da bomber
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 1:45 PM
posted by QuakerOats

99% of people will choose freedom, economic freedom, and capitalism, over socialism, Marxism and communism, if properly informed. 

Venezuela was destroyed in one generation.  Many of our cities are already heading down the path.

Picking a side is easy.




Properly informed? Satanism over  Christianity. More people have died in the name of Jesus than all of the wars put together.  It’s not even close.
BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 1:52 PM
posted by Devils Advocate
Properly informed? Satanism over  Christianity. More people have died in the name of Jesus than all of the wars put together.  It’s not even close.

I didn't see him mention anything about Satanism, Christianity or religion in general.

To reply to his last comment, picking a side isn't "easy" when many of the gullible are not properly informed. 

I couldn't give a rat's ass about the abortion issue but the Dem's will paint it that everyone is getting raped or could potentially have a birth defect with their child so the "big bad Republicans" still want them to go through with the pregnancy where the truth is probably that those instances are outliers and 99% of these abortions are chicks sleeping with 7-8 dudes in a year, one guy slips one past the goalie, and she doesn't want the "inconvenience" of a child. For the latter, I have no empathy, using abortion as birth control.

Trueblue23 BASEDgod
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 1:57 PM

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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 2:19 PM
posted by Trueblue23

Considering they came into office during the pandemic, the numbers are skewed. 

As I said, given the pandemic and continued supply chain issues, I think it is debatable how much of the economy is a result of Biden.

The President does not control the supply chain or even have influence in interest rates. 

Just like how I don't blame Trump for the economy in 2020. 

Trueblue23 BASEDgod
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 2:40 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Considering they came into office during the pandemic, the numbers are skewed. 

As I said, given the pandemic and continued supply chain issues, I think it is debatable how much of the economy is a result of Biden.

The President does not control the supply chain or even have influence in interest rates. 

Just like how I don't blame Trump for the economy in 2020. 

I think you missed the point 

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 3:28 PM
posted by BR1986FB

99% of these abortions are chicks sleeping with 7-8 dudes in a year, one guy slips one past the goalie, and she doesn't want the "inconvenience" of a child. 

I don’t think this is anything close to being accurate.  I understand your objection to abortion - that’s your right.  But this generalization is not true in the way you’re implying.


Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 3:30 PM
posted by BR1986FB

I couldn't give a rat's ass about the abortion issue but the Dem's will paint it that everyone is getting raped

All raped by illegal aliens no less!!!!!


8,788 posts 20 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Aug 20, 2024 3:41 PM
posted by Trueblue23

I think you missed the point 

That they talked about Trump a lot and probably other non economic issues? 

Trump is the opponent and unpopular. Easy to point to him and say they are going to do the opposite. 


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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 3:47 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Listening to Raskin at the convention. He's still going on about fascism and all that other nonsense. 

Does anybody still believe any of that?

Back when Raskin was in the Maryland state house, he was my Senator and very liberal, progressive then. I've met him a few times. He has rose their the ranks due to his anti Trump stances. Like Schiff in CA,  it has dominated too much of his worldview. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 3:52 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I don’t think this is anything close to being accurate.  I understand your objection to abortion - that’s your right.  But this generalization is not true in the way you’re implying.


I don't object to abortion, just when it's used as birth control. If someone gets raped or there's some screwed up circumstance, I wouldn't expect the mother to carry it to term. Just not a fan of these mulligans after a one night stand.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 4:03 PM
posted by BR1986FB

I don't object to abortion, just when it's used as birth control. If someone gets raped or there's some screwed up circumstance, I wouldn't expect the mother to carry it to term. Just not a fan of these mulligans after a one night stand.

I understand your view.  But I don’t think it’s 99% of abortions.  That’s what I was saying.


CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 4:26 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I don’t think this is anything close to being accurate.  I understand your objection to abortion - that’s your right.  But this generalization is not true in the way you’re implying.


Prove he's wrong.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Tue, Aug 20, 2024 4:30 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Back when Raskin was in the Maryland state house, he was my Senator and very liberal, progressive then. I've met him a few times. He has rose their the ranks due to his anti Trump stances. Like Schiff in CA,  it has dominated too much of his worldview. 

I don't know anything about his time in the state house, just his fuckery in California, so I don't really have anything to say about that period.

But I do agree with you about how Trump dominates his worldview. I sometimes wonder if people become so fixated that it developed into something akin to a fetish, but without the sexual stimulation. 

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