2024 Presidential Election Thread

Tulsi Gabbard now on a terror watch list?!

Where is 'too far' for the Dems?

Jesus Christ...

posted by CenterBHSFan

Dude, I was born in '70. I don't have to read a journal about it, I was there.

Gen X, fuck yeah!

I was there too. Because Tipper Gore saw the devil on her MTV, we ended up with Parental Advisory stickers which told kids exactly which version to buy. 

posted by bigorangebuck22

I was there too. Because Tipper Gore saw the devil on her MTV, we ended up with Parental Advisory stickers which told kids exactly which version to buy. 

Tipper Gore was a trip! And I had forgotten all about her until you brought her up. Made me laugh!

Her PMRC crap didn't stop me from buying 2 Live Crew!

posted by iclfan2

I also don’t understand people like Laley who say if it wasn’t for Trump they may vote right. You either have beliefs for the country or you don’t. The person changes almost nothing.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Interesting how random people become overnight experts on topics such as military rank seemingly overnight.

One day: Couldn’t list military ranks in their entirety. 

Next day: Expert on nuance of earned rank versus retired rank, combat deployment, consensus opinion of current and retired military personnel, etc.

Don't steal valor and people won't be forced to look into it.  Really easy.

posted by Trueblue23

Don't steal valor and people won't be forced to look into it.  Really easy.

Okay

I have some TDS, too. Luckily for me it hasn't metastisized to end stage yet like it obviously has for some. God speed!

The reasons I'm not voting for him have already been repeated and nauseam here. 

At the same time I won't be voting for a party that's doing its best to actually be everything they accuse Trump of doing. Every accusation is a confession. And they just keep piling on to their infamy and won't stop.

TDS is a bad name for describing people who loathe Trump.  In most cases, they have a very rationale reason for not liking the guy.  I would also suggest that a lot of what’s labeled “TDS” isn’t focused entirely at Trump the person.  Rather it’s rejection of the entire MAGA mentality.  Granted Trump’s a big part of that.  But I think people who claim to hate Trump really hate the mentality that has grown up around the MAGA movement.

Why does Trump, and now Kamala, think that there shouldn’t be tax on tips? I get why workers like it obviously, but are we just gonna start picking professions that don’t need to pay tax on their incomes? The military? Teachers?

posted by iclfan2

Why does Trump, and now Kamala, think that there shouldn’t be tax on tips? I get why workers like it obviously, but are we just gonna start picking professions that don’t need to pay tax on their incomes? The military? Teachers?

This is an example of the point I was making earlier…the president’s job isn’t about crap like this.  The president is there to provide leadership during a national or global crisis.  This stuff is just pandering.

TDS is a very real thing.  It was hyperbolic overreaction to things that often weren't true, such as Russian Collusion.  Just throw out some ridiculous hypothetical, like "Trump could start nuclear war with Canada" and watch a person with TDS go off like a roman candle.

Could you just imagine the uproar right now if Iran hacked Kamala's campaign and was actively interfering in the election to elect Trump?  By the way, do you know who Russia favors to win the election?

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Yes, and how people who’d never heard of it on a Tuesday understood it intimately and were closely familiar with its creators’ plans by Wednesday.

Dr and I agree here. Walz’s rank and deployment thing blew up overnight, not as big, but just like the P2025 BS.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Tulsi Gabbard now on a terror watch list?!.

posted by gut
I don't understand - is she being watched because they've detected threats against her, or is she on actual terror watchlist?  Seems like the latter they don't usually announce how and what they're doing.

It was a whistleblower who got the word out, apparently. Coincidence or whatever, it happened right after Tulsi criticized the govt. On FOX news lol

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

TDS is a bad name for describing people who loathe Trump.  In most cases, they have a very rationale reason for not liking the guy.  I would also suggest that a lot of what’s labeled “TDS” isn’t focused entirely at Trump the person.  Rather it’s rejection of the entire MAGA mentality.  Granted Trump’s a big part of that.  But I think people who claim to hate Trump really hate the mentality that has grown up around the MAGA movement.

It's a perfectly apt description when everybody here who is not voting for him cite his personality as THE reason or the biggest reason. They also list, as part of that, media fatigue with all things Trump. His policies weren't the big decider.

posted by CenterBHSFan

It was a whistleblower who got the word out, apparently. Coincidence or whatever, it happened right after Tulsi criticized the govt.

Now that I think about it, was it the 2020 primary that Dems and their media were accusing Gabbard of being a Russian agent?  It was really interesting how they wheeled out the "Russia Russia Russia" hoax against Tulsi.

Seems odd to waste resources, especially for someone really no longer in the political arena, if there wasn't some sort of credible evidence.  On the other hand, the conspiracy theorist would say while there was a slim chance of Trump picking her as his VP, the DOJ was laying the groundwork for pre- and post-election interference.

posted by CenterBHSFan

It's a perfectly apt description when everybody here who is not voting for him cite his personality as THE reason or the biggest reason. They also list, as part of that, media fatigue with all things Trump. His policies weren't the big decider.

But maybe they have very rational reasons for not liking him.  Derangement is defined as A state of mental disturbance or disorientation, or being unable to think clearly or behave in a controlled way

It could be said that supporting him is better described as TDS.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Derangement is defined as A state of mental disturbance or disorientation, or being unable to think clearly or behave in a controlled way

posted by gut
Seems to describe perfectly people who think Trump is Hitler and will destroy Democracy.  And there are a lot of them.

It does.  It also well describes the people who drive around with his flags all over their cars, flags all over their yards, January 6-capitol types who think the Democratic Party are “unhumans” intent on drawing the world into a socialist death spiral.

posted by iclfan2

Why does Trump, and now Kamala, think that there shouldn’t be tax on tips? I get why workers like it obviously, but are we just gonna start picking professions that don’t need to pay tax on their incomes? The military? Teachers?

Yes, no taxes on teachers. Thank You….that would buy my vote