2024 Presidential Election Thread

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Thu, Oct 17, 2024 1:47 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I respect your opinion.  It's just an interesting thing in politics, as in other areas, two people can be intelligent, yet have the exact opposite reaction after having seen and heard the exact same thing.

Did you watch either her interview with CtG or the one with Dracula last night?

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 17, 2024 2:00 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

I disagree and here is why. 

The Harris team reached out to FOX/Dracula, probably with the understanding that she wasn't going to get her hand held. She had days to prepare better content than a filibuster. But she just kept repeating that she was a victim of Trump. Now, I call that as a bunch of horse shit. But I also listened to her interview with Charlemagne tha God where she explained that she keeps repeating what she says because she is "disciplined". That is HER terminology and explanation for why she conducts herself in the way that she does. That is her strategy. 


One thing about Baier is that many in those circles, by the way he interviews, don't pick up on which party (Blue/Red) he favors and he prefers it this way. That's why I had no idea how this would go last night. I completely agree with you that she should've expected certain questions and been better prepared for them other than her standard "but Trump" answers.

And her answer to the "we want to move forward" or whatever the exact verbiage was, when Baier basically said "move forward from what? Your regime has created this problem over the last 3.5 years" and her answer of "I'm not Joe Biden" and deflecting to Trump again was pretty weak.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 17, 2024 2:26 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Did you watch either her interview with CtG or the one with Dracula last night?

I watched last night's interview.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Thu, Oct 17, 2024 2:35 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I watched last night's interview.

Ok, so I find it interesting that you make the claim that what I said about her was an opinion. Because I watched her explain her reasoning and quoted it here. It's a fact. Not my opinion. 

I can say it's a fact because it wasn't a circumstance where she said a partial sentence and then I filled in the rest based on what I thought she meant. It's not my opinion. 

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 17, 2024 4:15 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Ok, so I find it interesting that you make the claim that what I said about her was an opinion. Because I watched her explain her reasoning and quoted it here. It's a fact. Not my opinion. 

I can say it's a fact because it wasn't a circumstance where she said a partial sentence and then I filled in the rest based on what I thought she meant. It's not my opinion. 

I'm talking about the opinion that she was ineffective in her interview, whereas someone else watches it and thinks the opposite.  

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Thu, Oct 17, 2024 4:47 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I'm talking about the opinion that she was ineffective in her interview, whereas someone else watches it and thinks the opposite.  

That wasn't my opinion. I said that he didn't attack her, that he kept interrupt her when she tried to filibuster.

So, there's that.


CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Thu, Oct 17, 2024 7:07 PM

I'm curious about those states that still have Kennedy on the ballot. Are those Kennedy voters still considered Democrat? 

And then the states where he was able to have his name taken off the ballot, will those same type of voters just swing their vote to Kamala or Jill Stein?

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 17, 2024 7:27 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

That wasn't my opinion. I said that he didn't attack her, that he kept interrupt her when she tried to filibuster.

So, there's that.


I wasn’t meaning you personally.  It is an observation that two people can watch the same thing and see it two totally different ways.


CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Thu, Oct 17, 2024 8:21 PM

In my opinion I think that Kamala needs to make herself the center of everything she says. She needs to sell herself to those who might be persuaded. She's got less than 3 weeks left, she's got to do this. 

Trueblue23 BASEDgod
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Fri, Oct 18, 2024 8:32 AM

Kamala not going to the roast last night is a bad look.


Coincidentally, the last candidate to skip the roast was Mondale.....

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Oct 18, 2024 8:43 AM

Heard that Harris is so desperate that she's considering a one on one sit down with Joe Rogan. That ought to be a doozy.

Trueblue23 BASEDgod
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Fri, Oct 18, 2024 10:03 AM

It's like her people live in another universe

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Oct 18, 2024 10:09 AM
posted by Trueblue23

It's like her people live in another universe

Someone posted her giving a speech on my LinkedIn and the responses were "she's AMAZING!!!", "So well spoken", "a true leader!" Like you said, "another universe." And before "Mr Know It All" jumps on me to say "you're going to have that opinion, regardless", I'm not a  Trump sycophant and think he often comes across aloof. BUT, I also believe, of the two, he has the best chance to "try" to turn this thing around where Harris, continuing with an even more liberal/aggressive policy will only dig this country a deeper hole than her and Biden have already dug.

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Fri, Oct 18, 2024 10:19 AM

But you are going to have that opinion no matter what. When was the last time, if ever, you voted Democrat? If you are a party line and only party line, then there is no purpose in having conversations. 

Trueblue23 BASEDgod
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Fri, Oct 18, 2024 10:51 AM
posted by Laley23

But you are going to have that opinion no matter what. When was the last time, if ever, you voted Democrat? If you are a party line and only party line, then there is no purpose in having conversations. 

I'm an independent.  I have voted on both sides of the aisle, and do so down the ticket now.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Fri, Oct 18, 2024 11:09 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Someone posted her giving a speech on my LinkedIn and the responses were "she's AMAZING!!!", "So well spoken", "a true leader!" Like you said, "another universe." And before "Mr Know It All" jumps on me to say "you're going to have that opinion, regardless", I'm not a  Trump sycophant and think he often comes across aloof. BUT, I also believe, of the two, he has the best chance to "try" to turn this thing around where Harris, continuing with an even more liberal/aggressive policy will only dig this country a deeper hole than her and Biden have already dug.

I don't know everything, but I'm pretty certain that you are never going  to change your mind about Kamala.  There's nothing wrong with that; you're entitled to your opinion.  But with that comes a human tendency to seek out supporting data to the opinion you hold.  We all do that, and you're doing it with Kamala.  

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Fri, Oct 18, 2024 11:47 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I don't know everything, but I'm pretty certain that you are never going  to change your mind about Kamala.  There's nothing wrong with that; you're entitled to your opinion.  But with that comes a human tendency to seek out supporting data to the opinion you hold.  We all do that, and you're doing it with Kamala.  

You're right, my mind's not going to change on her because she's sneaky, deceitful and, as has been mentioned, has sadist tendencies. She's been flip flopping this whole campaign, won't give a straight answer, and as Baier called out, was one of the ones covering for Biden's failed mental capacity for months. She's been hiding, just like Biden did in 2020 (although gramps had the COVID excuse), and now she's trying to throw up a Hail Mary to try to project the image that she's "likeable", which she's not.

When the Dem's decide it's more important to lower taxes, keep our borders safe (not flooded with illegals OR migrants), decide to spend money on our homeless (particularly veterans) instead of Ukraine, etc, not threaten to takes our guns, they will get my vote. But that's not how they roll. It's more important to flood the country with their future Dem voters, make sure that guys can get their free surgeries so they can compete against women in sports, shove garbage/overpriced electric vehicles down our throat and passive/aggressively threaten to take away guns. Oh, and did I mention loving $250-300/week grocery bills?

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Fri, Oct 18, 2024 12:52 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Heard that Harris is so desperate that she's considering a one on one sit down with Joe Rogan. That ought to be a doozy.

I would like to see both candidates to a sit down with him. He has a way of making people feel comfortable and relaxed enough to open up more than they usually would. I think he could get answers to questions that people would like to actually get an answer to. Politicians have the ability to say a whole bunch of things with the goal of saying nothing; filibuster. I think he would be able to winnow out info better than a pundit.

CenterBHSFan 333 - I'm only half evil
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Fri, Oct 18, 2024 1:20 PM

I will just say that the Dems in DC are puke bags and have ruined their chances to persuade me to ever vote for them. I've always voted for some Dems at the local levels, though. Positions like county commissioner, for example. But even those closer to home Dems are generally getting into the stupid territories, making my revulsion of them even more visceral. And we all know that they have no aspirations of changing course. 

That is not to say that Republicans are any better. The current Speaker is a great example of awful. He has just as much authority to call an emergency session of Congress as the president has to shift monies from funding war for other countries and keep that money here where so many are desperate for help, but he won't. We know why, too. He's playing politics so that people keep their anger directed at the Dems. The Republicans are every bit as despicable as the Democrats. Don't get it twisted.

Congress in general have betrayed We the People for decades now, because those lobbyist lunches are just too good. Not to mention the fact that the military industrial complex and intelligence agencies have corrupted every facet of Congress, the Senate and Presidency. Since WWII. It would take a considerable amount of time, focus and genuine determination to start reversing the status quo at this point. Kamala Harris, the sadistic piece of baggage that she is, won't even consider it. Donald Trump, the aimless goofball that he is, won't do much more than talking some small parts about it. 

The best thing imo that Kamala has going for her is that she's better looking than Trump and has the plow of the military industrial complex (expand that to govt entities in general) in front of her.

The best thing that Trump has going for him is that he already has a better team (Kennedy and Tulsi) surrounding him than she does.



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