2020 Presidential Election thread

Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 2:31 PM
posted by gut

AR....just enough to make-up for PA for Biden.

You mean Arizona?


ts1227 Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 2:34 PM
posted by gut

20-30k votes each in 3 states could be the difference.

Easy to talk yourself out of the EC, but that's not actually what the difference was because all those other states narrowly went for one or the other, too.

The next EC fun comes if everything holds as is now and you end up 270-268 Biden (which seems somewhat likely).

One faithless elector can send it to the House to decide, which would give it to Trump since it is voted on by state delegations, which he would have the majority.

This country will go off the damn rails 


BRF Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 3:04 PM

I wonder what the current price tag would be for a faithless elector?

Also, I was racking my brain trying to figure out where the missing electoral vote was in the Biden 270 projection. Then I ran into a little story about one vote not committed yet from Maine....... Maine being one of the two states that are not “all or none”. 

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 3:07 PM

posted by BRF

I wonder what the current price tag would be for a faithless elector?

Also, I was racking my brain trying to figure out where the missing electoral vote was in the Biden 270 projection. Then I ran into a little story about one vote not committed yet from Maine....... Maine being one of the two states that are not “all or none”.

I think that 1 vote has already been called for Trump.

Biden thinks NV and MI are done and their current margin could grow slightly.  That's 270.

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 3:08 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

You mean Arizona?


Yeah, Alaska and Arizona always trip me up on their stupid abbreviations.

ts1227 Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 3:15 PM
posted by BRF

I wonder what the current price tag would be for a faithless elector?

Also, I was racking my brain trying to figure out where the missing electoral vote was in the Biden 270 projection. Then I ran into a little story about one vote not committed yet from Maine....... Maine being one of the two states that are not “all or none”. 

Yeah Maine’s second district is what moves it from hypothetical 271 Biden to 270. Trump is ahead there with a bunch of rural votes left so it’s done (I think some have called it but not all). The other 3 Maine votes were called for Biden by all and are represented on the hypothetical 270-268 scenario


friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 3:36 PM

538 saying Arizona - where Biden leads by 90K votes - still has 600K left to count. They’re supposedly releasing one batch of votes around 9pm and another after midnight tonight. Seems really awkward. Reminds me of a TV or radio show that would give away prizes after stringing you along. “Coming up in the hour our ultra sweepstakes giveaway, but first a word from our sponsors!”

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 3:51 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

538 saying Arizona - where Biden leads by 90K votes - still has 600K left to count.

Transparency in counting is important, but if every tally dump is going to flip the result that's not good for the country.
ts1227 Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 4:00 PM
posted by gut
Transparency in counting is important, but if every tally dump is going to flip the result that's not good for the country.

But what can you do about it this year? All the states are following their systems, it’s just the absentee process got overwhelmed by the volume (which should be a one off), so said process is more time consuming.

Since we managed to politicize the methods in which we vote (even though they’re all legal and existed without issue well before 2020), depending on what order shit goes through the machine creates the swings. 

wildcats20 In ROY I Trust!!
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 4:17 PM

CNN just called Michigan for Biden. They haven’t called Arizona or Nevada, which are both blue currently. Gonna be a long night. 

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 4:23 PM

It would be madness if AZ flips red, and then GA goes blue.

And, LOL, the markets are like "cool, election is over don't really care who wins"

geeblock Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 4:24 PM

Let’s not forget the it was gop that didn’t want the votes counted early right? Now suing to not have them counted at all? 

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 4:41 PM
posted by geeblock

Let’s not forget the it was gop that didn’t want the votes counted early right? Now suing to not have them counted at all? 

It sounds like they're suing to allow their poll watchers to be allowed to actually watch the counting.

geeblock Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 4:54 PM
posted by gut

It sounds like they're suing to allow their poll watchers to be allowed to actually watch the counting.

For now


geeblock Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 4:55 PM

They are suing in Philadelphia where they literally are live-streaming the opening of the ballots which is kinda funny even tho it is for another county 

geeblock Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 5:12 PM
posted by gut

It sounds like they're suing to allow their poll watchers to be allowed to actually watch the counting.

Didn’t take long 



geeblock Member
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gut Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 5:21 PM
posted by geeblock

Didn’t take long 



They have a legal right to observe the counting.  What are the Dems trying to hide ....we can all play that game.

Gore's team in 2000 tried to throw out military ballots from overseas.  So spare me the high-and-mighty talking points.

geeblock Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 5:23 PM
posted by gut

They have a legal right to observe the counting.  What are the Dems trying to hide ....we can all play that game.

Gore's team in 2000 tried to throw out military ballots from overseas.  So spare me the high-and-mighty talking points.

Lol I just said he was going to sue sorry to trigger you. You can agree or disagree with if he should. I guess u skipped over the conspiracy theory part 


gut Senior Member
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Wed, Nov 4, 2020 5:26 PM
posted by geeblock

Lol I just said he was going to sue sorry to trigger you. You can agree or disagree with if he should. I guess u skipped over the conspiracy theory part 


What conspiracy?  They have a legal right to observe the counting.  It's hilarious you bitch about every vote being counted....but apparently don't think it's important for people to watch that process.

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