2020 Presidential Election thread

posted by ptown_trojans_1

This is 2020, I wouldn't rule anything out. 

Plus, Trump supporters have been violent over the last 4 years..come on remember Charlottesville? 

Oh I forgot one person drove a car into a crowd......one person.  

posted by gut

On the filibuster, probably not.  But there are always legal arguments to be made, especially wrt stacking the court, in which case they might have a say.

The entire argument is essentially liberals want a progressive court to legislate from the bench.  Forget about a check on the balance of power - what they really want is an end-around a gridlocked Congress.

I keep hearing how Trump is allegedly destroying democracy, but everything notable I see is the Democrats shitting on the Constitution.

I was more thinking if the court of more conservative and the filibuster is eliminated, the Ds may not need to stack the court of they have both chambers and the Presidency (assuming they take the Senate and Biden wins). If that happens, then any action the court takes, they can pass laws to fix any of the rulings. That negates legislating from the bench as they will be actually legislating. 

For example, if the court strikes down the ACA, the Ds can just pass another version with less road blocks. It does force the Ds to actually work through and pass laws. 

posted by Spock

Oh I forgot one person drove a car into a crowd......one person.  

I guess you just forgot about the whole thing then huh?

Either way, both the crazy left and the right have been guilty of violent acts. To dismiss that is to ignore the reality of these times. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

I guess you just forgot about the whole thing then huh?

Either way, both the crazy left and the right have been guilty of violent acts. To dismiss that is to ignore the reality of these times. 

The deaths caused aren’t even comparable. You aren’t even pretending to be logical. 

posted by iclfan2

The deaths caused aren’t even comparable. You aren’t even pretending to be logical. 

I was speaking about the violence, not just the death. The rise of right wing violence is a growing threat according to the FBI and DHS. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

I was speaking about the violence, not just the death. The rise of right wing violence is a growing threat according to the FBI and DHS. 

It’s literally on video, and it’s overwhelmingly one sided, but ok. 

Ptown using the Alinsky approach of trying to attach the worst part of one group into the other to make all things even.

The left is 100X more violent and unlawful then the right

posted by Spock

Ptown using the Alinsky approach of trying to attach the worst part of one group into the other to make all things even.

The left is 100X more violent and unlawful then the right

Link?

posted by Spock

Ptown using the Alinsky approach of trying to attach the worst part of one group into the other to make all things even.

The left is 100X more violent and unlawful then the right

Aren’t most domestic terrorists from the right .. aka Timothy mcveigh ect..Dylan roof..

posted by geeblock

Aren’t most domestic terrorists from the right .. aka Timothy mcveigh ect..Dylan roof..

I think a more accurate description of Timothy McVeigh is not right-wing but Antifa (before it was cool).

And there have been a fair number of domestic terrorists that were self-radicalized jihadists, but most of that seems to get dismissed as workplace violence.

posted by Heretic

Link?

Portland by itself is now over 100X more violent.  Math is simple, and fun.

posted by QuakerOats

Portland by itself is now over 100X more violent.  Math is simple, and fun.

So would that be like a 1,000,000% increase?

posted by gut

So would that be like a 1,000,000% increase?

Please don't ask QO to do math. 

I thought it was CC who fucked up the math?

Also, are people really taking the “RBG’s dying wish” story at face value? I give it about 5% chance this actually happened.  If that was her dying wish, then that is very sad.

posted by like_that

I thought it was CC who fucked up the math?

Yeah, but sometimes I get them confused...

posted by like_that

Also, are people really taking the “RBG’s dying wish” story at face value? I give it about 5% chance this actually happened.  If that was her dying wish, then that is very sad.

Yeah it was her grand daughter who said it and took the statement. Man, I know you are a cynical guy...but come on. The granddaughter of the Justice would just make it up? Really? 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah it was her grand daughter who said it and took the statement. Man, I know you are a cynical guy...but come on. The granddaughter of the Justice would just make it up? Really? 

The democrat party is infamous for turning death into a political theatre.  I learned this many moons ago during the Wellstone memorial.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah it was her grand daughter who said it and took the statement. Man, I know you are a cynical guy...but come on. The granddaughter of the Justice would just make it up? Really? 

It doesn't matter whether it's true or not. It's the Supreme Court of the United States. It's not the make a wish foundation

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah it was her grand daughter who said it and took the statement. Man, I know you are a cynical guy...but come on. The granddaughter of the Justice would just make it up? Really? 

Then as I said earlier, that is a very sad dying wish. 

Regardless, it's shocking that you take every unverified report for what it's worth when it fits your agenda.  It's ok to be skeptical.  That's how you prevent an entire nation from being useful idiots.