2018 mid-term election

posted by justincredible

Yeah, they appear to be going hard Progressive.

So, is this when the dems have their "tea party election?

Trumps economy is booming.....Gun legislation is coming and NK at the table and not the ledge.   Trump and pubs gonna sweep 2018 and 2020.

The Dem bench is small.  Warren basically giving up sends message that don't bother in 2020.  Trump aint losing.

posted by Spock

Trumps economy is booming.....Gun legislation is coming and NK at the table and not the ledge.   Trump and pubs gonna sweep 2018 and 2020.

The Dem bench is small.  Warren basically giving up sends message that don't bother in 2020.  Trump aint losing.

LOL....While it's a safe bet we won't have a recession before the 2018 election, I wouldn't hold my breath on that before 2020.

Even allowing that we have a longer/stronger recovery after a recession like that, and that the Obamaconomy was more like 4 years of growth instead of 8....12 years is a LONG time to go between recessions.  10 years is the longest expansion we've had.

Hilarious the GOP nut hangers believe meeting with NK is a good thing.  Every past president could have met with them but said no.  Only the goof Trump and friends now believe its a good idea.  The sanctions are working.  

 Otto Warmbier would disapprove.      

posted by HOF on coattails

 Every past president could have met with them but said no. 

The phrase you're looking for is "kicking the can down the road".

posted by gut

 

The phrase you're looking for is "kicking the can down the road".

Spin it however you like.   Technically, we are still at war with NK.  Lets see if KJU is seriously willing to give up it's nukes or if is just playing Trump. 

Lets see what preconditions are agreed upon. 

Jeffery Lewis is right -

   “To be clear — we need to talk to North Korea,” Lewis explained in a follow-up tweet. “But Kim is not inviting Trump so that he can surrender North Korea’s weapons. Kim is inviting Trump to demonstrate that his investment in nuclear and missile capabilities has forced the United States to treat him as an equal.”

Man the liberal spin is strong......all of a sudden meeting with NK and gun control are things we "should not" do.  

posted by HOF on coattails

Spin it however you like.   Technically, we are still at war with NK.  Lets see if KJU is seriously willing to give up it's nukes or if is just playing Trump. 

Lets see what preconditions are agreed upon. 

 

Jeffery Lewis is right -

 

   “To be clear — we need to talk to North Korea,” Lewis explained in a follow-up tweet. “But Kim is not inviting Trump so that he can surrender North Korea’s weapons. Kim is inviting Trump to demonstrate that his investment in nuclear and missile capabilities has forced the United States to treat him as an equal.”

LMFAO.  You accuse me of "spin" for stating simple facts, and then quote that.

Clinton, Bush and Obama did nothing with Korea.  Fact.  They kicked the can down the road.  Fact.  You need to actually talk to Kim to accomplish anything.  Fact.

Trump will probably fail like his predecessors (who barely even tried), but meeting with Kim isn't some sort of global disaster.  The whole "not recognizing" thing is pretty childish for foreign diplomacy.  Don't know who the idiot was that came up with that, or why these jackasses still think it's good policy.

Obama frickin' sent Dennis Rodman.  JFC that guy was a disaster.

posted by gut

 

Obama frickin' sent Dennis Rodman.  JFC that guy was a disaster.

Well, he had already won the Nobel Peace Prize, so ....

posted by gut

You need to actually talk to Kim to accomplish anything.  Fact.

Obama frickin' sent Dennis Rodman.  JFC that guy was a disaster.

You're right.  Trump sitting face-to-face with little rocket man will make all of the difference.  My bad.

lol...Obama sent Rodman.  That's a good one.

(edit) Do you two, Spock and Gut, really believe Obama sent Rodman to NK?  

Gut pretty much just powned you.  Other presidents did nothing because they made all their decisions based on what political optics were done.  Trump DGAF about that.

posted by Spock

 Other presidents did nothing because they made all their decisions based on what political optics were done.  Trump DGAF about that.

 

Lets hope so.    Do you believe NK will agree to denuclearize?   Trump DGAF about political optics, so he's willing to meet with NK.

Got it.  

Lol anyone see the Dems new tax plan? Increasing taxes will surely win you 2018, please run on that, and gun confiscation

posted by HOF on coattails

Lets hope so.    Do you believe NK will agree to denuclearize?   Trump DGAF about political optics, so he's willing to meet with NK.

 

Got it.  

 

KJU can be held at bay.  He cares less about politics then Trump so if anyone can negotiate with him it will be the other BSer in the room.

posted by Spock

 Trump and pubs gonna sweep 2018 and 2020.

The Dem bench is small.  Warren basically giving up sends message that don't bother in 2020.  Trump aint losing.

Conor Lamb and Doug Jones, disagrees.

posted by Said

Conor Lamb and Doug Jones, disagrees.

Dems will gain seats, just because history says so, but to think Doug Jones going up against a child molester is a good indication is idiotic at best.  That seat will flip back to a republican easily in 2020.  Book it.

Conor Lamb isn't a bad indicator of the dem's strategy though.  Throw out moderate dem candidates (ex-marine as well) in rust belt districts.  Unfortunately the party has gone full retard though, so it will be interesting to see how many of the "bernie" candidates win the primaries and ruin the dem's chances of winning a seat.  

It will be interesting though if a decent chunk of dems winning seats are moderates like Jim Webb.  I would like to see if they actually remain principled once they are elected, or if they will get in line with the rest of the dems going full retard on identity politics.  

Yeah, the Ds will pick up seats, just depends on how much. 

Two things from last night. One, apparently, healthcare was a big thing last night and Lamb won that issue. The R efforts to go full Quaker and repeal the ACA is not popular. 

https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/PA18PostElectionSurvey.pdf

Two, Trump won the district by 20 points, but his approval rating is now at 50%. 

If Ds can hone that message, yeah I could see a wave, depending on the district and issue. 

Also, Trump straight up sucks at closing to support a candidate. If I was an R fighting for a seat, I wouldn't want him anywhere near my race. 

posted by like_that

 

   Unfortunately the party has gone full retard though,   

Are you talking about the Dems or the Repubs?   If anyone has gone full retard, it's the party and people who support this guy.  A child molester lost in Alabama and yes, it's very well possible it'll be back to a GOP seat here in a few years, but to all those people who voted Dem this time around, having an adulterer and sexual assaulter running the country is OK?    

Trump firing Tillerson over Twitter shows what type of person he truly is.  

Here we are with a special election for Congress in Pa and just look at what is happening.  We have a D that sounds like an R and it looks like he might win.  To congress he will go and when he get there he will vote just like the D party tell him to. Why do we as a country think we need to have the opposing party in power of Congress so nothing gets done.  Just when the economy is looking, lets shut it down and wish things would get better. 

Certainly not a harbinger of any sort.  Lamb ran a good campaign, and is a military guy who is pro life and pro gun, supposedly; sort of like voting for a republican.  Add that to Saccone not being a good campaigner, little personality, and unable to get the ball over the finish line, and the race was going to be tough.  However, it almost does not matter because PA is having to redraw congressional districts and neither one of these guys may end up being a rep down the road.