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bartsimpson
Posts: 168
Mar 23, 2010 11:43am
Another off-season, another year of Favre being completely selfish with regard to telling the Vikes what his plans are. The draft is coming up and the Vikings have no idea whether he'll be back or not. They just had one of their management guys on ESPN saying they hadn't talked to him for 4 or 5 weeks. Now the Vikes are saying if he wants to play that "being late for training camp would be ok". What does that say to the rest of the team? I don't understand the fascination with this guy. He was great, he's still good, but there are a lot of guys much better than him in the league who don't get this type of treatment.....though most of them wouldn't take it if they could.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Mar 23, 2010 11:45am
Childress already told him to take all the time he needs, so the Vikes obviously aren't (publicly) pushing him to make a decision one way or the other.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Mar 23, 2010 11:55am
Oh rly? Can you name this "lot of guys" please? I can think of 3 quarterbacks I'd rather have for one season, only 3.bartsimpson wrote: but there are a lot of guys much better than him in the league who don't get this type of treatment.....though most of them wouldn't take it if they could.
Manning
Brady
Brees
Possibly Rodgers as well, but that's it. I certainly wouldn't say there's a "lot" of guys better, and when youre talking about the most important position in football, I'd rather have an undecided Brett Favre than the quarterbacking situation of about 25 other teams.
Edit: And before you say Philip Rivers, I'd take Favre over Rivers because Rivers is less talented and doesn't know how to win in the clutch.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Mar 23, 2010 11:57am
I think it could very well be the case that Favre plays this game now specifically to get out of camp. He also clearly loves the attention.
I mean, he pretty much point blank indicated he was retiring before the NFCC. There simply was no reason to do that if he had any thoughts of coming back.
I mean, he pretty much point blank indicated he was retiring before the NFCC. There simply was no reason to do that if he had any thoughts of coming back.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Mar 23, 2010 12:01pm
He showed up less than 3 weeks before the season last year at 40 years old and proceeded to have the best season of his career. He doesn't need the training camp, and all he only does the retirement dance to get out of it.
UA5straightin2008
Posts: 3,246
Mar 23, 2010 12:02pm
kevin williams, the pro bowler DE for the Vikings has said basically that he "really respects favre and he could careless if he showed up to training camp. He has been to nearly 20 of them by now and he knows the drill; hes paid his dues. I would hope if I made it that far people would understand if I didnt come"
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bartsimpson
Posts: 168
Mar 23, 2010 12:06pm
That's my point. There are quite a few other guys who "don't need training camp"...but they do it because that's what team players do.IggyPride00 wrote: He showed up less than 3 weeks before the season last year at 40 years old and proceeded to have the best season of his career. He doesn't need the training camp, and all he only does the retirement dance to get out of it.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Mar 23, 2010 12:08pm
That people's past accomplishments buy them the right to be treated differently than others, and that "fair" is where you go to earn a ribbon.bartsimpson wrote: Now the Vikes are saying if he wants to play that "being late for training camp would be ok". What does that say to the rest of the team?
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Mar 23, 2010 12:18pm
I dislike Favre on so many levels, and this is one of them.
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Swamp Fox
Posts: 2,218
Mar 23, 2010 1:26pm
Will it be Medicare A and B or will it be a Super Bowl Ring? Which one will come first?
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 23, 2010 1:29pm
He already has a ring, so that already came first.Swamp Fox wrote: Will it be Medicare A and B or will it be a Super Bowl Ring? Which one will come first?
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Mar 23, 2010 6:52pm
Do you not understand what the 'sports forums' are for? 
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Mar 23, 2010 6:59pm
^^^
I'm thinking not.
I'm thinking not.
skank
Posts: 6,543
Mar 23, 2010 7:21pm
With all the other wanna be thugs and criminals playing in the league, I think Bretts retirement decisions at the end of each season are minor compared to.
Shooting yourself in the leg
Having ownership hire babysitters
Running dog fighting rings
Drinking and driving
Running people over on the highway
Being accused of sexual assault....twice even.
Being caught with drugs
Being caught with guns
Being caught with drugs AND guns
Demanding to be traded
Pouting because you were traded
Running a drug and whore house across the street from the practice facility
Being a passenger on the "love boat"
Shooting yourself in the leg
Having ownership hire babysitters
Running dog fighting rings
Drinking and driving
Running people over on the highway
Being accused of sexual assault....twice even.
Being caught with drugs
Being caught with guns
Being caught with drugs AND guns
Demanding to be traded
Pouting because you were traded
Running a drug and whore house across the street from the practice facility
Being a passenger on the "love boat"
Strapping Young Lad
Posts: 2,453
Mar 24, 2010 1:28pm
Winnerskank wrote: With all the other wanna be thugs and criminals playing in the league, I think Bretts retirement decisions at the end of each season are minor compared to.
Shooting yourself in the leg
Having ownership hire babysitters
Running dog fighting rings
Drinking and driving
Running people over on the highway
Being accused of sexual assault....twice even.
Being caught with drugs
Being caught with guns
Being caught with drugs AND guns
Demanding to be traded
Pouting because you were traded
Running a drug and whore house across the street from the practice facility
Being a passenger on the "love boat"
Enforcer
Posts: 2,140
Mar 24, 2010 10:21pm
Who was running a Drug and Whore house???? I musta missed ESPN that Month
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Mar 24, 2010 10:22pm
I was wondering that as well. How did I miss that.
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Sonofanump
Mar 24, 2010 10:25pm
Yeah, he would never say he was done and then come back.gut wrote: I mean, he pretty much point blank indicated he was retiring before the NFCC. There simply was no reason to do that if he had any thoughts of coming back.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Mar 24, 2010 10:25pm
Good call.
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Sonofanump
Mar 24, 2010 10:34pm
NNN
Posts: 902
Mar 24, 2010 11:43pm
You'd rather take someone who twice has thrown an INT on his team's last possession of the season (in overtime of a playoff game) and say that "he knows how to win in the clutch"?lhslep134 wrote:Oh rly? Can you name this "lot of guys" please? I can think of 3 quarterbacks I'd rather have for one season, only 3.bartsimpson wrote: but there are a lot of guys much better than him in the league who don't get this type of treatment.....though most of them wouldn't take it if they could.
Manning
Brady
Brees
Possibly Rodgers as well, but that's it. I certainly wouldn't say there's a "lot" of guys better, and when youre talking about the most important position in football, I'd rather have an undecided Brett Favre than the quarterbacking situation of about 25 other teams.
Edit: And before you say Philip Rivers, I'd take Favre over Rivers because Rivers is less talented and doesn't know how to win in the clutch.
Mmkay then.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Mar 25, 2010 12:36am
I'll take Farve over Rivers because Rivers is a gigantic douchebag.NNN wrote:You'd rather take someone who twice has thrown an INT on his team's last possession of the season (in overtime of a playoff game) and say that "he knows how to win in the clutch"?lhslep134 wrote:Oh rly? Can you name this "lot of guys" please? I can think of 3 quarterbacks I'd rather have for one season, only 3.bartsimpson wrote: but there are a lot of guys much better than him in the league who don't get this type of treatment.....though most of them wouldn't take it if they could.
Manning
Brady
Brees
Possibly Rodgers as well, but that's it. I certainly wouldn't say there's a "lot" of guys better, and when youre talking about the most important position in football, I'd rather have an undecided Brett Favre than the quarterbacking situation of about 25 other teams.
Edit: And before you say Philip Rivers, I'd take Favre over Rivers because Rivers is less talented and doesn't know how to win in the clutch.
Mmkay then.
NNN
Posts: 902
Mar 25, 2010 2:08am
Between the two of them, who has pulled the "Oh, I might retire" game for the last seven years? Which one, in the midst of another offseason languishing over what to do, called a press conference at his charity golf tournament and hinted that he was going to announce something, then stood up there and said "I have nothing to say, so I don't know why you're all here"?I Wear Pants wrote: I'll take Farve over Rivers because Rivers is a gigantic douchebag.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 25, 2010 6:54am
Favre- League MVP 3 times
2 Conference Championships
1 Super Bowl Ring
Rivers- .....
Well, my choice is clear.
2 Conference Championships
1 Super Bowl Ring
Rivers- .....
Well, my choice is clear.