Referee's in the NIT are worthless!

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Jughead
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Mar 17, 2010 11:12pm
End of Memphis-St. John's game includes a buzzer beater that somehow counts after a Memphis player takes no less than 4 steps after picking up the ball.

He picked up the ball from the three point line and walked all the way to the box at the bottom of the post in a r-pattern before throwing up a prayer. It's hard to explain, but if you see the replay, it will be quite obvious.
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GOONx19
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Mar 18, 2010 12:07am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7riXVFXDo0

Good angle at the 1:10 mark. Looks like three, but it's still a travel.
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Cleveland Buck
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Mar 18, 2010 12:11am
I didn't watch the youtube clip, but watching it live it looked like he shuffled his feet before he even started dribbling on that drive. They should have called traveling twice.
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ralphus33
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Mar 18, 2010 1:06am
It is not the refs for the NIT games. It is refs for basketball in general. It is as if the rules have changed over the past 10 or so years and players are now allowed an extra 2-3 steps. They also do not call people for palming the ball like they should.
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Laley23
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Mar 18, 2010 10:49am
I didnt see a travel. I think he takes another dribble and just does his jump stop into a shot. We cant see that dribble cause his back is to us, but thats what it looks like to me. Not a travel.
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cbus4life
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Mar 18, 2010 11:20am
Agree with Laley.
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Eric Taylor
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Mar 18, 2010 11:39am
Jay Williams from Duke even said he got away with a travel.
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thedynasty1998
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Mar 18, 2010 12:09pm
Didn't look all that bad to me, and definitely wasn't "no less than 4 steps".
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Laley23
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Mar 18, 2010 10:23pm
I just re-watched. I just fail to see where the travel is.
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CinciX12
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Mar 18, 2010 10:24pm
Eric Taylor wrote: Jay Williams from Duke even said he got away with a travel.
Well if Jay Williams from Duke said it, then hell it must be true. He won 4 national titles didn't he?
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wildcats20
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Mar 18, 2010 10:26pm
I've seen worse.

I'm with Laley on this one, I don't see a travel.
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september63
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Mar 18, 2010 10:27pm
And the officiating was any better in the Villanova/Robert Morris game today?
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GOONx19
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Mar 18, 2010 10:41pm
The kid takes three steps after the ball's in his hands. It's not a jump stop; all three land at separate times. That's a travel, except in the NBA.
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fortfan
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Mar 19, 2010 9:14am
Ref in the UD game called a shot clock violation with 3 seconds left on the clock....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31dnKOOFYNg
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Jughead
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Mar 19, 2010 11:01am
^^^ROFL

I didn't see the last dribble on the live view when I made the tread...but 3 steps is STILL A TRAVEL.
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Laley23
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Mar 19, 2010 11:19am
Jughead wrote: ^^^ROFL

I didn't see the last dribble on the live view when I made the tread...but 3 steps is STILL A TRAVEL.
Thats so tough though, because it is so subjective. I am a referee and I would not have called that a travel at any point in a game.

When a player picks up his dribble he often has a foot still in the air, and thats not his pivot foot. In other words, if you watch that video he is finishing a step when he grabs the ball with his second hand. That foot, by rule, is allowed to come down and he then has a pivot foot (to put in laymans terms, he then can take his two steps). That was not a travel. Watch today in the games. When players are running at a teammate and the teammate passes the ball they often finish their steps while catching the ball and then still have their pivot foot.

People are very quick to judge officials on this type of play without realizing how much freedom offensive players have in that type of situation.