I guess they are not all lefties in San Fran.....

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ptown_trojans_1's avatar
ptown_trojans_1
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Mar 11, 2010 5:21pm
A federal appeals court in San Francisco upheld the use of the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance and "In God We Trust" on U.S. currency, rejecting arguments on Thursday that the phrases violate the separation of church and state.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/11/AR2010031103038.html?hpid=topnews

Good call by the courts, and a little surprise out of the 9th circuit. I see no problem with either phrase.
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fish82
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Mar 11, 2010 5:37pm
Color me pleasantly surprised....didn't see that coming at all!
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CenterBHSFan
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Mar 11, 2010 5:40pm
"The Pledge is constitutional," Judge Carlos Bea wrote for the majority in the 2-1 ruling. "The Pledge of Allegiance serves to unite our vast nation through the proud recitation of some of the ideals upon which our Republic was founded."
Glad to see a judge who isn't afraid (of group outcries) to state the obvious.
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Writerbuckeye
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Mar 11, 2010 6:08pm
Given that court's history, this is a pleasant surprise.
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ytownfootball
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Mar 11, 2010 6:40pm
Sounds like the two were tied to one another. Might have been able to pull off the pledge locally, but there is no way in hell they were going rule in his favor when it came to messing with the greenbacks.
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Mar 12, 2010 4:42pm
There is a God! :D
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FairwoodKing
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Mar 12, 2010 5:07pm
believer wrote: There is a God! :D
No, there are just crazy judges who don't know what they're doing. The Supreme Court is the best example I can give.
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believer
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Mar 12, 2010 6:18pm
FairwoodKing wrote:No, there are just crazy judges who don't know what they're doing. The Supreme Court is the best example I can give.
Well if and when this hits SCOTUS let's hope you're wrong.
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Mar 16, 2010 11:30am
Honestly, this ticks me off ...


... not the ruling. The fact that we're spending time and money on it.
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bigmanbt
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Mar 16, 2010 2:54pm
You guys do realize that "In God We Trust" wasn't the national motto until 1956 and "Under God" wasn't added to the Pledge of Allegiance until the early 1950's right? So much for "Ideals we were founded on", these sayings became more common closer to the bicentennial than the founding of our country.
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ptown_trojans_1
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Mar 16, 2010 2:58pm
bigmanbt wrote: You guys do realize that "In God We Trust" wasn't the national motto until 1956 and "Under God" wasn't added to the Pledge of Allegiance until the early 1950's right? So much for "Ideals we were founded on", these sayings became more common closer to the bicentennial than the founding of our country.
Yes. It was mainly done to emphasize God in terms of the U.S. is a God nation while the Soviets were a nation that did not believe in God. Godless commies was one saying.

Still, that does not mean it should also refer to the founding of this country, nor the historical impact that God has had on this country.
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Mar 16, 2010 5:03pm