rock_knutne wrote:

september63 wrote: Hasnt Jeff Reed been (Cited) for drunk and disorderly twice within the last 2 years? Throw in a public urination charge that he and TE Matt Spaeth got. The Steelers are angels, of the field. I say, Angels!!

The public urination charge was against Spaeth, Reed starting verbally abusing the cops after they cited Spaeth and that's part of the TWO citiations leveled against Reed. And yeah, compared to most NFL teams, especially the Bungles, the Steelers are Angels off the field.

Did they resign Reed? I know he is kind of a douche, but after witnessing the last playoffs, a solid kicker is very important.

rock_knutne wrote: Let's get one thing straight smart ass, do not lump me in with Capone.......got it? He's as bad as sleeper, tiernan and ccrunner when it comes to starting trouble on here.

When you post the same crap over and over...you're gonna typically get lumped with him..considering he does the exact same thing. Just sayin'. LOL

wes_mantooth wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

september63 wrote: Hasnt Jeff Reed been (Cited) for drunk and disorderly twice within the last 2 years? Throw in a public urination charge that he and TE Matt Spaeth got. The Steelers are angels, of the field. I say, Angels!!

The public urination charge was against Spaeth, Reed starting verbally abusing the cops after they cited Spaeth and that's part of the TWO citiations leveled against Reed. And yeah, compared to most NFL teams, especially the Bungles, the Steelers are Angels off the field.

Did they resign Reed? I know he is kind of a douche, but after witnessing the last playoffs, a solid kicker is very important.

They put the franchise tag on him. Reed's impressive numbers at Heinz Field is the only reason why he's back.

GoChiefs wrote:

rock_knutne wrote: Let's get one thing straight smart ass, do not lump me in with Capone.......got it? He's as bad as sleeper, tiernan and ccrunner when it comes to starting trouble on here.

When you post the same crap over and over...you're gonna typically get lumped with him..considering he does the exact same thing. Just sayin'. LOL

Same crap? I just answered your lame question/comment and I don't need to add anything else. The records speak for themselves, so hang on to your win for as long as you can. If I was a Browns fan I'd be just as excited at something as rare as a win over the Steelers.

rock_knutne wrote: Same crap? I just answered your lame question/comment and I don't need to add anything else. The records speak for themselves, so hang on to your win for as long as you can. If I was a Browns fan I'd be just as excited at something as rare as a win over the Steelers.

LMAO..OK man..you can calm down now...I'm done. I just like watching you got all heated up sometimes. LOL No hard feelings boss..was just messin' with ya. But again..I have not stated whether he is innocent or guilty..b/c..I like most...think it's just a gold digging whore trying to get a free dollar.

Another problem I have with these situations....

It is just easier for these million dollar athletes to pay these gold diggers off, rather than stand up to them. Hell, I didn't realize till this morning that Big Ben still has a civil suit pending on the horse from the last time. God knows how many of these women blackmail athletes....and we never even hear about it.

rock_knutne wrote:

GoChiefs wrote:

rock_knutne wrote: I again find it funny how the dumb ass haters come flying out of the wood work when a Steeler is in the news for something negative.

That's rich! Another Steeler fan talking haters and saying something negative about another team!! Pot meet kettle? LOL You guys get pretty damn defensive when the shoes on the other foot! HA HA Love it!

rock_knutne wrote: you hypocrites

Pot meet kettle?

Here we go, Mr. Smart Guy who knows it all. Go crawl back under your rock! BTW, it's an accusation, NO CHARGES HAVE BEEN FILED! We have another Communist in the ranks that presumes guilt before the facts have come out.

Are you implying that you want to be on top of him?

He is from Findlay which is worse than Toledo Public Schools. Can't expect him to be too intelligent.

There once was a QB, his name was Big Ben
He lacked self control, now it's off to the pen
He liked to rape women, then say, "wasn't me"
This guy is a pig, just like Kobe.

stroups wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

GoChiefs wrote:

rock_knutne wrote: I again find it funny how the dumb ass haters come flying out of the wood work when a Steeler is in the news for something negative.

That's rich! Another Steeler fan talking haters and saying something negative about another team!! Pot meet kettle? LOL You guys get pretty damn defensive when the shoes on the other foot! HA HA Love it!

rock_knutne wrote: you hypocrites

Pot meet kettle?

Here we go, Mr. Smart Guy who knows it all. Go crawl back under your rock! BTW, it's an accusation, NO CHARGES HAVE BEEN FILED! We have another Communist in the ranks that presumes guilt before the facts have come out.

Are you implying that you want to be on top of him?

Want to talk about lame......that one took the cake! Now excuse me while I go back to watching another Pittsburgh championship team, the Penguins.

Makes ya' wonder why the Browns didn't claim that Ben raped them up until last December......

because there was PLENTY of video evidence of Ben pounding that Cleveland ass!!!!

They had a much stronger case than McNulty or this latest chick.

Because Ben returned the favor and bent over himself last December.....

Strapping Young Lad wrote: Because Ben returned the favor and bent over himself last December.....

But those same Steelers beat your Vikings last year!!!











Sorry, I had to.

Wow, so many bandwagon jumpers on here, it's hard to keep track of who cheers for who.

killer_ewok wrote:

Strapping Young Lad wrote: Because Ben returned the favor and bent over himself last December.....

But those same Steelers beat your Vikings last year!!!













Sorry, I had to.

rock_knutne wrote:

stroups wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

GoChiefs wrote:

rock_knutne wrote: I again find it funny how the dumb ass haters come flying out of the wood work when a Steeler is in the news for something negative.

That's rich! Another Steeler fan talking haters and saying something negative about another team!! Pot meet kettle? LOL You guys get pretty damn defensive when the shoes on the other foot! HA HA Love it!

rock_knutne wrote: you hypocrites

Pot meet kettle?

Here we go, Mr. Smart Guy who knows it all. Go crawl back under your rock! BTW, it's an accusation, NO CHARGES HAVE BEEN FILED! We have another Communist in the ranks that presumes guilt before the facts have come out.

Are you implying that you want to be on top of him?

Want to talk about lame......that one took the cake! Now excuse me while I go back to watching another Pittsburgh championship team, the Penguins.

Agreed

championships since 1964

Pittsburgh 11
Cleveland 0

Haha yeah judging from those TMZ pics....no one knew who he was? Riiiight.

A lot of you are missing the point here. Its not about bashing a Steeler player for be ACCUSED of sexual assault. Its about dumbass women thinking they can act whorish and they get a nice check out of it. Its absolute bullshit and it really pisses me off. I had to make a sworn statement for a friend who was accused of rape. And I know for 100% fact that the female wanted it and asked for it.

Update:

The investigation will continue into next week. Georgia officials are trying to set up an interview with Ben who has left the state. They are also waiting on lab results.

Automatik wrote: Haha yeah judging from those TMZ pics....no one knew who he was? Riiiight.

A lot of you are missing the point here. Its not about bashing a Steeler player for be ACCUSED of sexual assault. Its about dumbass women thinking they can act whorish and they get a nice check out of it. Its absolute bullshit and it really pisses me off. I had to make a sworn statement for a friend who was accused of rape. And I know for 100% fact that the female wanted it and asked for it.

To be fair, we don't know what the motive is. You can't really say it's a money grab until a civil suit is filed, which we wouldn't know for months.

My issue is this: It seems the alleged assault occurred from 2-2:30 in various parts of the bar. That doesn't add up. She clearly had the ability to remove herself from this situation, yet didn't. One incident I could understand, but how do you explain multiple instances - not to mention the part about being together in the ladies room? That's some degree of consent or allowing fooling around, mixed signals at best. If you're groping on each other and he goes a little too far, I don't think that's assault if you stop him and he stops. Miles apart from some perv's unsolicited fondling of a girl.

Just saying if Ben made an unwelcomed grab I could see that as assault (not that those types of things ever really get reported, girls usually laugh it off to what a creep that guy was). But she kept coming back, so I'm inclined to think there was some sort of intimacy that was acceptable and allowed, and at that point it's difficult to say exactly how you assault someone as opposed to simply going too far or misreading signals. I mean, there's either a discrete act uninvited and unwelcomed that was assault or there wasn't. I fail to see how it's possible to sexually assault this woman several times over the course of 30 minutes around different parts of the bar. The very first (possibly second) time it happened, she would have stopped it and removed herself from the situation and made a complaint.

Sounds to me like he had the green light to go to 2nd, but then she put the brakes on when he tried going to 3rd. I don't see or understand that as assault. If it were, it would have occurred at, say, the bathroom at 2:25 not 2-2:30 at various parts of the bar.

Non wrote: championships since 1964

Pittsburgh 11
Cleveland 0

Zero significance to whether your star QB will be charged with sexual assault. AS he continue trying to settle a civil suit for a similar indiscretion!!

Rape:

steelers 2

Browns 0

My issue is this: It seems the alleged assault occurred from 2-2:30 in various parts of the bar. That doesn't add up. She clearly had the ability to remove herself from this situation, yet didn't. One incident I could understand, but how do you explain multiple instances - not to mention the part about being together in the ladies room? That's some degree of consent or allowing fooling around, mixed signals at best. If you're groping on each other and he goes a little too far, I don't think that's assault if you stop him and he stops. Miles apart from some perv's unsolicited fondling of a girl.

It doesn't add up because you're looking at it from the wrong perspective.

Look at it from a drunk guy following a chic all over the bar being told no multiple times and yet he still follows her into the womens restroom.

I don't know obviously but you're kinda looking at it from a perspective that doesn't make any sense to me.

ytownfootball wrote:
It doesn't add up because you're looking at it from the wrong perspective.

Look at it from a drunk guy following a chic all over the bar being told no multiple times and yet he still follows her into the womens restroom.

I don't know obviously but you're kinda looking at it from a perspective that doesn't make any sense to me.

Well, that is ONE perspective but it is no more right or wrong than mine, but I think what you described it quite unrealistic.

They were partying with Ben and his boys, bar hopping together. I have my doubts that he'd be following her around like some desperate college punk who hadn't gotten any in forever. I seriously doubt he followed her into the restroom but rather was invited. I mean, I really don't see many guys following girls around like that. Guys know that sort of lame puppy dog desperation act doesn't work, and there's no way a guy who has women throwing themselves at him goes that route. Not to mention, as soon as she wanders off I'm sure there were at least a few other girls nearby waiting for their chance to jump in. Ben chasing her around the bar is laughably ridiculous.

I stand by the fact that after the first or second time, she complains to a bouncer (at which point I'm pretty sure the bouncer is getting quickly to Ben's boys to get him out of trouble). Shortly thereafter to the cops. To me this smells like she was either teasing him or deliberately setting him up.