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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Feb 25, 2010 1:45pm
Tough break for the Boilers and a season killer. Sweet 16 is about the best they can hope for.
http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2010/02/25/hummels_initial_diagnosis_is_torn_acl
http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2010/02/25/hummels_initial_diagnosis_is_torn_acl

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Feb 25, 2010 1:47pm
Beat me to it. One of the best, what a shame.
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mallymal614
Posts: 3,746
Feb 25, 2010 1:51pm
I'm a buckeye guy but I was really going to root for Purdue in the tournament. They are loaded with talent to do so. Though they still got the players, this is a huge loss.

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Feb 25, 2010 1:52pm
I wasn't expecting it to be that serious when it happened. Huge loss for Purdue. Someone like Keaton Grant is really going to need to step up for them now.

thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Feb 25, 2010 2:23pm
Terrible news. As an OSU fan, I really respect Purdue with the way they play and the kind of guys on the team. Just one of those teams it's hard to not cheer for. I was hoping they could make a tourney run, but it's just that much harder now.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 25, 2010 3:03pm
That sucks..wish it woulda been kramer instead of robbie

Quint
Posts: 737
Feb 25, 2010 3:15pm
This stinks. I was hoping for a good showing from Big Ten teams in the tourney.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 25, 2010 3:27pm
I thought it was a torn ACL as soon as he went down. That knee buckled inward really quickly and sharply.
I wish it was Kramer...the only player in basketball I actually hate.
I wish it was Kramer...the only player in basketball I actually hate.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Feb 25, 2010 3:27pm
Tough loss for Purdue but they still have some good talent to work with come tournament time.
We'll really see what the other guys are made of.
We'll really see what the other guys are made of.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 25, 2010 3:28pm
I really dont see Purdue as any kind of threat anymore. Hummel and Johnson was all they had down low. Now its just Johnson and he wont get it done alone.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Feb 25, 2010 3:59pm
Wow, big time loss. I really believed Purdue had all the pieces to get to the final four. Without Hummel, that will make it very difficult now.
Although, i will say...Grant is a talent and he stepped up big time last nite. He isn't so consistant..and like they said last nite, with him, less is more. He will now be forced to do more. He has scored double figures the last 3 games. But they will miss Hummel on the inside as he was their second leading rebounder.
Although, i will say...Grant is a talent and he stepped up big time last nite. He isn't so consistant..and like they said last nite, with him, less is more. He will now be forced to do more. He has scored double figures the last 3 games. But they will miss Hummel on the inside as he was their second leading rebounder.

jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Feb 25, 2010 4:21pm
That hurts. I liked them to go to the championship game against KU. I don't think that'll happen now.

Leonardo
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Feb 25, 2010 5:12pm

reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Feb 25, 2010 6:29pm
Hummel's not nearly the player, but this reminds me of Kenyon Martin's injury during the 2000 C-USA Tournament. The Bearcats were 29-2 or something like that heading into the NCAAs and although they still received a two seed with Martin out, you just knew Cincy wasn't getting past the Sweet 16. They ended up getting beat in the second round by Bill Self and upstart Tulsa.
Had Martin been there, Cincinnati probably wins the 2000 NCAA title and Bob Huggins is still in the Queen City challenging for titles year in, year out.
This is a real shame.
Had Martin been there, Cincinnati probably wins the 2000 NCAA title and Bob Huggins is still in the Queen City challenging for titles year in, year out.
This is a real shame.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 25, 2010 7:53pm
^^Thats funny it reminded me a little more of Allen Henderson and his knee back in the 93 season. Simply because Henderson on Indiana had a lot of talent around him where at Cinci it was a big drop-off. IU still made the Elite 8, something Purdue has the talent to do without Hummel (although personally I never had them that far with him, and see them as Sweet 16 at best).
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Feb 25, 2010 8:02pm
Very sad for Hummel and Purdue's chances in the tourney.

reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Feb 25, 2010 8:11pm
Even though I fully expected that Cincy team to falter after losing Martin, I think you're underestimating the talent Bob Huggins had on that 2000 Bearcat club. Steve Logan, Pete Mickeal, Kenny Satterfield, DerMarr Johnson and Jermaine Tate. IMO, that's more talent than what Purdue currently has on its roster without Hummel. Those kids were straight athletes.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Feb 25, 2010 11:14pm
.....The problem in comparing Purdue 2010 with Cincinnati 2000 is that the selection committee didn't have a game to judge the Bearcats. How the Bearcats would fare without Martin was the subject of great discussion, according to NC State athletic director Lee Fowler, who was a member of the 2000 selection committee.
"We didn't get a chance to see how they'd play after [Martin] got hurt," Fowler said Thursday. "We were assuming it would affect that team. But we had a lot of discussion about it. We spent a whole day discussing it. Had there been games where they played without him we could have had a more realistic view. You knew they weren't the No. 1 team anymore. They didn't feel like No. 1 anymore. There was no way to tell how far they should drop [in the seed line] because we didn't see them play." .......
Huggins said the biggest difference between what Cincinnati had to deal with and what Purdue will face over the next three-plus weeks is style of play. Huggins, whose Mountaineers lost to Purdue on Jan. 1, said the Boilermakers run a motion offense and they won't have to change that system. But Huggins said the Bearcats ran everything through Martin and once he was out they had to change the way they played, leaning on guards Kenny Satterfield and Steve Logan.
"It obviously affected us more," Huggins said in comparing what a Hummel absence will mean to Boilermakers. "They won't change what they do but we had to change what we did drastically."
If Purdue were to win the Big Ten regular-season title and the conference tournament then rewarding the Boilermakers with a No. 1 seed would seem appropriate. If they slip up then there would be just cause to drop them down a peg or two.
The best-case scenario for the committee is it has time to gauge the Boilermakers. The committee didn't have that luxury with Cincinnati in 2000.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/4946278/how-purdue-fare-hummel
"We didn't get a chance to see how they'd play after [Martin] got hurt," Fowler said Thursday. "We were assuming it would affect that team. But we had a lot of discussion about it. We spent a whole day discussing it. Had there been games where they played without him we could have had a more realistic view. You knew they weren't the No. 1 team anymore. They didn't feel like No. 1 anymore. There was no way to tell how far they should drop [in the seed line] because we didn't see them play." .......
Huggins said the biggest difference between what Cincinnati had to deal with and what Purdue will face over the next three-plus weeks is style of play. Huggins, whose Mountaineers lost to Purdue on Jan. 1, said the Boilermakers run a motion offense and they won't have to change that system. But Huggins said the Bearcats ran everything through Martin and once he was out they had to change the way they played, leaning on guards Kenny Satterfield and Steve Logan.
"It obviously affected us more," Huggins said in comparing what a Hummel absence will mean to Boilermakers. "They won't change what they do but we had to change what we did drastically."
If Purdue were to win the Big Ten regular-season title and the conference tournament then rewarding the Boilermakers with a No. 1 seed would seem appropriate. If they slip up then there would be just cause to drop them down a peg or two.
The best-case scenario for the committee is it has time to gauge the Boilermakers. The committee didn't have that luxury with Cincinnati in 2000.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/4946278/how-purdue-fare-hummel

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 26, 2010 12:55am
They had more able bodies than Purdue but Id take Johnson and Moore over any of the Bearcats easily. Cinci back in the day was still thug-u and while they had great teams, and great athletes, I would say they were overly talented (in comparison to other top 10 teams). Werent those players all pretty young as well? I dont really remember the grades of them, but Logan and DeMarr Johnson I thought were underclassmen (and those are the 2 best players in that group imo)reclegend22 wrote: Even though I fully expected that Cincy team to falter after losing Martin, I think you're underestimating the talent Bob Huggins had on that 2000 Bearcat club. Steve Logan, Pete Mickeal, Kenny Satterfield, DerMarr Johnson and Jermaine Tate. IMO, that's more talent than what Purdue currently has on its roster without Hummel. Those kids were straight athletes.

swamisez
Posts: 1,990
Feb 26, 2010 7:33am
horrible thing to happen to Hummel and Purdue. Hate to see such a thing happen to a kid and a team in their prime.
hopefully Coach Painter can rally the troops and finish the season strong.
hopefully Coach Painter can rally the troops and finish the season strong.

Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Feb 26, 2010 4:47pm
Very sorry to hear this -- I am always a Big Ten fan in the tourney and was hoping Purdue would do well.
I'll be very interested to see if Purdue can finish out the Big Ten with two wins and capture the title, or whether this injury plays into them losing a game and throwing the league race into a tie.
I'll be very interested to see if Purdue can finish out the Big Ten with two wins and capture the title, or whether this injury plays into them losing a game and throwing the league race into a tie.