bases_loaded
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Feb 22, 2010 9:09am
I know he is one of the best goalies of all time...but why is 38 year old Marty Broduer the starter for team Canada? In the country that invented the game, the best goal tender is 38 years old?
gorocks99
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Feb 22, 2010 9:49am
The answer to your second question is no, he's not the best right now, and when Babcock puts in Luongo instead it'll make a difference. Marty is getting his time b/c he's the big name and arguably the GOAT at his position. Unfortunately, GOAT does not equal GORN (greatest of right now).
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Feb 22, 2010 10:17am
4 goals on 22 shots...gorocks99 wrote: The answer to your second question is no, he's not the best right now, and when Babcock puts in Luongo instead it'll make a difference. Marty is getting his time b/c he's the big name and arguably the GOAT at his position. Unfortunately, GOAT does not equal GORN (greatest of right now).
There is no denying how good he was, but team Canada can't go without a medal in these olympics. Time for a change.
gorocks99
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Feb 22, 2010 10:25am
I, for one, hope Babcock loses his mind and keep Brodeur in net. Regardless, Canada is going to have to get past Russia in the quarterfinals and regardless of who's in net, it will be a tough task. They lose that one (and I'd say there's probably a 30-40% chance they do) and there will be riots.
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Feb 22, 2010 10:37am
With Broduer in net they lose to Russia, no doubt in my mind.gorocks99 wrote: I, for one, hope Babcock loses his mind and keep Brodeur in net. Regardless, Canada is going to have to get past Russia in the quarterfinals and regardless of who's in net, it will be a tough task. They lose that one (and I'd say there's probably a 30-40% chance they do) and there will be riots.
Laley23
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Feb 22, 2010 10:38am
I think Melrose just said Luongo is going to be the starter for the next game (and in theory moving forward).
KnightXC1
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Feb 22, 2010 11:12am
Until last night, really no reason to take Brodeur out of the lineup. He got beat a couple of deflections which he had no chance at so it wasn't that he played terrible but unlike Miller, he didn't make the big stops when they needed him to. Might as well give Luongo a shot against Germany (which should be a win for Canada) and see how he does.
bases_loaded
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Feb 22, 2010 11:13am
So you are telling me that the BEST goal tender in CANADA is a 38 year old?KnightXC1 wrote: Until last night, really no reason to take Brodeur out of the lineup. He got beat a couple of deflections which he had no chance at so it wasn't that he played terrible but unlike Miller, he didn't make the big stops when they needed him to. Might as well give Luongo a shot against Germany (which should be a win for Canada) and see how he does.
KnightXC1
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Feb 22, 2010 1:07pm
Maybe he is or was. Can't judge one of the best goalies ever on one game. He didn't play well yesterday but he played fine in the first 2 games. In tournaments like this, coaches will generally go with experience and leadership which Brodeur has plenty of. If you gave me the choice going into the Olympics, I would certainly start with Brodeur but now things have changed so give Luongo or Fleury a shot at it and see if they can lead the team. I'm not going to question any coach that would put Brodeur between the pipes in a big game.
David St. Hubbins
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Feb 22, 2010 3:15pm
Too bad Brodeur never looks that bad when he plays the Pens!
GoPens
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Feb 22, 2010 3:36pm
I hope he keeps Brodeur in for the whole Olympic tournament. These extras games have to wear down on a 38-year-old's body come NHL playoff time. Considering the Pens record against the Devils this year, they need any advantage they can get.
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Feb 22, 2010 5:54pm
I believe that Marty benefits from a defensive system (Lemaire). Lou will do pretty good against Russia, when they play them.
Glory Days
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Feb 22, 2010 7:37pm
what does age have to do with it?bases_loaded wrote:So you are telling me that the BEST goal tender in CANADA is a 38 year old?KnightXC1 wrote: Until last night, really no reason to take Brodeur out of the lineup. He got beat a couple of deflections which he had no chance at so it wasn't that he played terrible but unlike Miller, he didn't make the big stops when they needed him to. Might as well give Luongo a shot against Germany (which should be a win for Canada) and see how he does.
KnightXC1
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Feb 22, 2010 11:40pm
^^^ THIS
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KCbus
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Feb 22, 2010 11:58pm
Look at the stats for both goalies:
Brodeur: 57 starts. 34-20-3, with a 2.32 GAA and a .915 save%.
Luongo: 51 starts. 31-17-2, with a 2.35 GAA and a .919 save%.
Looking at these numbers, I don't see how anyone can be baffled that Brodeur played last night. They're both really good. Brodeur got victimized by a couple deflections, and got beat by a guy who was standing on his head. I still think he's pretty good.
Brodeur: 57 starts. 34-20-3, with a 2.32 GAA and a .915 save%.
Luongo: 51 starts. 31-17-2, with a 2.35 GAA and a .919 save%.
Looking at these numbers, I don't see how anyone can be baffled that Brodeur played last night. They're both really good. Brodeur got victimized by a couple deflections, and got beat by a guy who was standing on his head. I still think he's pretty good.
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Feb 23, 2010 12:01am
Not doubt that Marty is a great goalie, he just got outplayed and made bad decisions.
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thavoice
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Feb 23, 2010 11:43am
I almost have to go with Luongo. Deflections...hell..that happens all the time. Didnt broduer give up 6 goals in his two games?
Plus, I believe Luongo plays in Vancouver. Might be a little more comfortable I know that may sound stupid but it is possible. Ya always feel a lil more comfortable in your own arena. You re used to the time zone, your used to all the surroundings....and he played well in his start from what I gather.
Gotta go with Luongo.
but then again..woudlnt put it past Broduer to go trhough the rest of the tourney and stand on his head and lead canada to gold.
Plus, I believe Luongo plays in Vancouver. Might be a little more comfortable I know that may sound stupid but it is possible. Ya always feel a lil more comfortable in your own arena. You re used to the time zone, your used to all the surroundings....and he played well in his start from what I gather.
Gotta go with Luongo.
but then again..woudlnt put it past Broduer to go trhough the rest of the tourney and stand on his head and lead canada to gold.
gorocks99
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Feb 23, 2010 11:46am
Luongo has already been named starter against Germany. As long as he doesn't let in 3+, he'll be their guy the rest of the way.
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Feb 23, 2010 12:19pm
^^^^^Unless he gets hurt and MAF might get to play.