2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Feb 21, 2010 9:00pm
From November 1990 through June 1998, the Bulls never lost three games in a row with Jordan.
that is crazy
that is crazy
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Feb 21, 2010 9:06pm
That's a really impressive stat!
But unfortunetly you posted it just because you hate lebron.....
But unfortunetly you posted it just because you hate lebron.....
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Feb 21, 2010 9:10pm
I'm not one to bash refs, but there were 2 calls in the 3rd and 1 in the 4th that were totally heinous, and IMO changed the game.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 21, 2010 9:14pm
I have a better fact about Jordan......he was a very poor gambler.
Strapping Young Lad
Posts: 2,453
Feb 21, 2010 9:16pm
Midstate01 wrote: That's a really impressive stat!
But unfortunetly you posted it just because you hate lebron.....
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Feb 21, 2010 9:24pm
Yea that is the exact reason, everything I post has to do with Lebron, no matter what.Midstate01 wrote: That's a really impressive stat!
But unfortunetly you posted it just because you hate lebron.....
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Feb 21, 2010 9:24pm
That is pretty impressive.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 21, 2010 9:27pm
Jordan also never had to play with the likes of Dwight Howard, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony, and the numerous athletes that would absolutely STOMP any of the players that played in Jordan's era.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Feb 21, 2010 9:31pm
Jordan never had to go against the likes of those guys. He had to go against better guys.sleeper wrote: Jordan also never had to play with the likes of Dwight Howard, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony, and the numerous athletes that would absolutely STOMP any of the players that played in Jordan's era.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Feb 21, 2010 9:32pm
I would love to see how those 70 win Bulls teams would do in todays basketball. Obviously, the 90's was much weaker, but I still think those Bulls would be championship contenders.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Feb 21, 2010 9:38pm
How soon we forget the past...
3reppom
Posts: 765
Feb 21, 2010 9:53pm
That is extremely debatable. Early in his career absolutely, but not when he was winning titles. The overall level of quality in the NBA during the 90's wasn't what it was in the mid 80's and certainly not what it is today.Al Bundy wrote:Jordan never had to go against the likes of those guys. He had to go against better guys.sleeper wrote: Jordan also never had to play with the likes of Dwight Howard, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony, and the numerous athletes that would absolutely STOMP any of the players that played in Jordan's era.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 21, 2010 10:01pm
LOLAl Bundy wrote:Jordan never had to go against the likes of those guys. He had to go against better guys.sleeper wrote: Jordan also never had to play with the likes of Dwight Howard, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony, and the numerous athletes that would absolutely STOMP any of the players that played in Jordan's era.
Ignorant. Keep thinking that. Today's NBA is harder, faster, stronger, across the board. I suppose the "good ole days" are fun to think about, and I'm not going to get into why(mostly because your stubborn ass will continue to believe your right), but its not even close. Today's NBA is way better than it was 10-15 years ago.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Feb 21, 2010 10:08pm
The Jordan era goes back much longer than 10-15 years ago. Just look at the 1992 Olympic team. Some of the guys you mentioned would have a very hard time making that team, and none of them would have started on it.sleeper wrote:LOLAl Bundy wrote:Jordan never had to go against the likes of those guys. He had to go against better guys.sleeper wrote: Jordan also never had to play with the likes of Dwight Howard, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony, and the numerous athletes that would absolutely STOMP any of the players that played in Jordan's era.
Ignorant. Keep thinking that. Today's NBA is harder, faster, stronger, across the board. I suppose the "good ole days" are fun to think about, and I'm not going to get into why(mostly because your stubborn ass will continue to believe your right), but its not even close. Today's NBA is way better than it was 10-15 years ago.
I am a Cavs fan, and the Cavs teams of the late 80's early 90's were much better than the Cavs team that made the NBA finals a few years ago. The team that made it to the finals in 2007 just had an easier path to the finals.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 21, 2010 11:25pm
Patrick Ewing,Reggie miller,Karl Malone,Isiah Thomas,Charles Barkley,Akeem Olajuwan to name a few who were better or just as good.sleeper wrote: Jordan also never had to play with the likes of Dwight Howard, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony, and the numerous athletes that would absolutely STOMP any of the players that played in Jordan's era.
Thunder70
Posts: 748
Feb 22, 2010 10:40am
Jordan had actual talent beside him on his team...
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Feb 22, 2010 11:16am
You guys aren't serious about the talent being better now? I really hope not.
KnightXC1
Posts: 1,031
Feb 22, 2010 11:16am
To think those Bulls teams of the 90's could not compete now is plain ignorance. Jordan played against some of the best players ever during those runs, mentioned above, and beat them all. Ewing, Barkley, Thomas, Olajuwan, O'Neal, Malone, Miller, Stockton. Players today may be better athletes than those guys, but those guys could flat out play.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 22, 2010 11:24am
I don't think that's in question here..rather, they (well, Jordan) wouldn't have won 7 titles if the talent level in the 90's was of equivalence to the talent level of today.KnightXC1 wrote: To think those Bulls teams of the 90's could not compete now is plain ignorance.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 22, 2010 12:05pm
Why not? The Lakers won 4 Titles in the last 10 years and the Spurs won 3 Titles in the same 10 years. The Bulls teams of the 90's were just as talented as the Lakers and Spurs.SportsAndLady wrote:I don't think that's in question here..rather, they (well, Jordan) wouldn't have won 7 titles if the talent level in the 90's was of equivalence to the talent level of today.KnightXC1 wrote: To think those Bulls teams of the 90's could not compete now is plain ignorance.
Also the Eastern Conf is weaker the last 10 years top to bottom than when the Bulls won their Titles.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 22, 2010 12:21pm
I wasn't taking a stance on the argument, just letting knightxc know what the argument actually pertains to.Skyhook79 wrote:Why not? The Lakers won 4 Titles in the last 10 years and the Spurs won 3 Titles in the same 10 years. The Bulls teams of the 90's were just as talented as the Lakers and Spurs.SportsAndLady wrote:I don't think that's in question here..rather, they (well, Jordan) wouldn't have won 7 titles if the talent level in the 90's was of equivalence to the talent level of today.KnightXC1 wrote: To think those Bulls teams of the 90's could not compete now is plain ignorance.
Also the Eastern Conf is weaker the last 10 years top to bottom than when the Bulls won their Titles.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Feb 22, 2010 12:48pm
Jordan won 6 titles (91,92,93,96,97,98). The league was much stronger during the first 3 than it was during the second 3. It is hard to say how they would have done this decade. Other than the Lakers in the early part of the decade, I don't think we have had exactly dominating teams in this decade.SportsAndLady wrote:I don't think that's in question here..rather, they (well, Jordan) wouldn't have won 7 titles if the talent level in the 90's was of equivalence to the talent level of today.KnightXC1 wrote: To think those Bulls teams of the 90's could not compete now is plain ignorance.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 22, 2010 12:49pm
Spurs and their 3 titles?Al Bundy wrote:Other than the Lakers in the early part of the decade, I don't think we have had exactly dominating teams in this decade.
KnightXC1
Posts: 1,031
Feb 22, 2010 1:01pm
The Spurs and Lakers have been very good but the Lakers never faced a tough team in the finals and basically rolled the East all 3 times. And as much as I like the Spurs, the only time they were truly challenged in the finals was against the Pistons in 05.
With the East being as bad as it has been for basically the last 7-8 years, it's not hard to fathom Jordan going to the finals 6 times in the last decade. I know what the argument pertains to. People think Jordan wouldn't have done as well in the last decade as he did in the 90's to which I disagree. Someone mentioned players playing today to which I responded with players who played against those Bulls teams. Those Bulls teams could still easily compete today.
With the East being as bad as it has been for basically the last 7-8 years, it's not hard to fathom Jordan going to the finals 6 times in the last decade. I know what the argument pertains to. People think Jordan wouldn't have done as well in the last decade as he did in the 90's to which I disagree. Someone mentioned players playing today to which I responded with players who played against those Bulls teams. Those Bulls teams could still easily compete today.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Feb 22, 2010 1:18pm
Take the words of Shaq on this argument of players today versus the 90's. Granted this quote is about him not needed to double team anyone unlike Dwight Howard, but he clearly talks about the players of the 90's being better. If he did not think so, why would he bring up those names instead of players today?
"When I was coming up and there was Pat Ewing and Hakeem (Olajuwon) and I never doubled anybody. You tell me who the real Superman is. Don't compare me to nobody. I'd rather not me mentioned, I'm offended."
"Don't let them double team me and make it a him vs. me thing. 18 years straight: Hakeem, (Pat) Ewing, Rik Smits, (Tim) Duncan, (David) Robinson, the best of the best, straight up. I never doubled nobody. Nor have I ever asked for double team."
"When I was coming up and there was Pat Ewing and Hakeem (Olajuwon) and I never doubled anybody. You tell me who the real Superman is. Don't compare me to nobody. I'd rather not me mentioned, I'm offended."
"Don't let them double team me and make it a him vs. me thing. 18 years straight: Hakeem, (Pat) Ewing, Rik Smits, (Tim) Duncan, (David) Robinson, the best of the best, straight up. I never doubled nobody. Nor have I ever asked for double team."