sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 18, 2010 2:32pm
Choice(lazy, poor diet, low self esteem, poor, dumb, etc..) or no choice(genetics, disease, bullshit, denial, etc...)?
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 18, 2010 2:35pm
a VAST VAST VAST VAST majority it is a choice.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Feb 18, 2010 2:37pm
Choice.
BCBulldog
Posts: 824
Feb 18, 2010 2:38pm
Maybe the fact that the genetics make it tough to keep weight off, it is just easier to become lazy about it.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Feb 18, 2010 2:41pm
97 - 98% choice
4cards
Posts: 2,551
Feb 18, 2010 2:42pm
...fuck you people! I don't have to put up with this shit, I'm outta here!
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Feb 18, 2010 2:44pm
This.thavoice wrote: a VAST VAST VAST VAST majority it is a choice.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Feb 18, 2010 2:47pm
Mainly choice.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Feb 18, 2010 2:48pm
unless you have hypothyroidism or some other verifiable medical condition its all choice...
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Feb 18, 2010 2:48pm
Choice, but far more difficult genetically for some.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Feb 18, 2010 2:49pm
I'm working to lose weight. The main reason I've gained it is because of my bad habit of eating a lot of late-night pizza due to herb indulgence combined with a general lack of exercise.
Therefore, I blame it all on genetics.
Therefore, I blame it all on genetics.
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El Jefe Grande
Posts: 425
Feb 18, 2010 2:50pm
Late-night pizza is the best.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Feb 18, 2010 2:52pm
Could there be different reasons for different people? Or do we have to generalize everyone?
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charliehustle14
Posts: 2,224
Feb 18, 2010 2:54pm
It's mostly a choice, but it's also a disease. Not just a switch an obese person can simply turn off.
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charliehustle14
Posts: 2,224
Feb 18, 2010 2:54pm
Good answer.FatHobbit wrote: Could there be different reasons for different people? Or do we have to generalize everyone?
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Timber
Posts: 935
Feb 18, 2010 3:00pm
Choice... with an asterisk.
It is a choice to eat the wrong foods/drinks and not get enough exercise.
Once someone does become overweight, then it becomes more of an addiction issue... much like any other drug, alcohol, sexual, tobacco, etc. addiciton. It is more of a mental problem at this point. Probably easier to overcome physically... than other addictions, but mentally just as challenging. Why do you medicate with food/bev? The core reason(s) is the problem. JMO
It is a choice to eat the wrong foods/drinks and not get enough exercise.
Once someone does become overweight, then it becomes more of an addiction issue... much like any other drug, alcohol, sexual, tobacco, etc. addiciton. It is more of a mental problem at this point. Probably easier to overcome physically... than other addictions, but mentally just as challenging. Why do you medicate with food/bev? The core reason(s) is the problem. JMO
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Feb 18, 2010 3:02pm
I think there are different reasons, but this is also something that can be generalized. Obesity can be genetic, but going beyond genetics is choice. If you work your butt off, but can't lose the weight, then it is obviously genetic. But, seriously... how many people would seriously fall into that category? A very, very minute percent.FatHobbit wrote: Could there be different reasons for different people? Or do we have to generalize everyone?
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Feb 18, 2010 3:17pm
lolsleeper wrote: Choice(lazy, poor diet, low self esteem, poor, dumb, etc..) or no choice(genetics, disease, bullshit, denial, etc...)?
UA5straightin2008
Posts: 3,246
Feb 18, 2010 3:23pm
its all about self discipline, some people have it, some people dont
Big_Mirg_ZHS
Posts: 2,079
Feb 18, 2010 3:28pm
THISHeretic wrote: I'm working to lose weight. The main reason I've gained it is because of my bad habit of eating a lot of late-night pizza due to herb indulgence combined with a general lack of exercise.
Therefore, I blame it all on genetics.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Feb 18, 2010 3:34pm
I'd say mostly choice...
But when fat parents take their fat kids to McDonalds and every other fat inducing choice that is not really their own then there's a bigger problem.
Now you have a fat young adult who knows they're fat but little in the way of exemplary leadership and less in the teachings of self control.
But when fat parents take their fat kids to McDonalds and every other fat inducing choice that is not really their own then there's a bigger problem.
Now you have a fat young adult who knows they're fat but little in the way of exemplary leadership and less in the teachings of self control.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Feb 18, 2010 3:48pm
Genetics to a point then habit takes over. most people have a predetermined body structure. meaning no matter how much they work out or how well they eat, they will never have 6 pack abs etc.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 18, 2010 3:51pm
diff between 6 pack abs and bein fat!Glory Days wrote: Genetics to a point then habit takes over. most people have a predetermined body structure. meaning no matter how much they work out or how well they eat, they will never have 6 pack abs etc.
redstreak one
Posts: 1,152
Feb 18, 2010 3:57pm
You people freaking kill me! lol I am 40 years old. I am 6'5", 286 lbs. I played sports all through school and college plus afterwards in gus mackers and such. I weighed between 250-270 through my 20's and early 30's. Just depended on my habits and if I was working out. Now, at 40 I am roughly 30+ pounds over what I normally was. Just a year ago I vowed to lose weight, I was 302 lbs at the time. I worked out for 6 days a week watching what I ate, and in 9 months time I lost 3 lbs. I went to the doctor for a yearly checkup and explained to him my problem. He had some tests ran and bloodwork. Then he sent me to an edocronologists, and they found that my thyroid was working properly! Now medicated, 2 months later I have lost 13 lbs and my metabolism is jump started again. So, it isnt as uncommon as some of you think!
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Feb 18, 2010 4:01pm
Thyroid problems probably don't account for more than 5% of the general population overweight.redstreak one wrote: You people freaking kill me! lol I am 40 years old. I am 6'5", 286 lbs. I played sports all through school and college plus afterwards in gus mackers and such. I weighed between 250-270 through my 20's and early 30's. Just depended on my habits and if I was working out. Now, at 40 I am roughly 30+ pounds over what I normally was. Just a year ago I vowed to lose weight, I was 302 lbs at the time. I worked out for 6 days a week watching what I ate, and in 9 months time I lost 3 lbs. I went to the doctor for a yearly checkup and explained to him my problem. He had some tests ran and bloodwork. Then he sent me to an edocronologists, and they found that my thyroid was working properly! Now medicated, 2 months later I have lost 13 lbs and my metabolism is jump started again. So, it isnt as uncommon as some of you think!