In an interview on MSNBC this morning, newly retiring Sen. Evan Bayh declared the American political system "dysfunctional," riddled with "brain-dead partisanship" and permanent campaigning. Flatly denying any possibility that he'd seek the presidency or any other higher office, Bayh argued that the American people needed to deliver a "shock" to Congress by voting incumbents out en masse and replacing them with people interested in reforming the process and governing for the good of the people, rather than deep-pocketed special-interest groups.

ou1980 wrote:And on top of this, retiring Senator Evan Bayh tells the American people to "VOTE'M OUT" in 2010!!!

In an interview on MSNBC this morning, newly retiring Sen. Evan Bayh declared the American political system "dysfunctional," riddled with "brain-dead partisanship" and permanent campaigning. Flatly denying any possibility that he'd seek the presidency or any other higher office, Bayh argued that the American people needed to deliver a "shock" to Congress by voting incumbents out en masse and replacing them with people interested in reforming the process and governing for the good of the people, rather than deep-pocketed special-interest groups.

ptown_trojans_1 wrote:
But, honestly, who else can lead right now?

ptown_trojans_1 wrote:

But, honestly, who else can lead right now?

ptown_trojans_1 wrote: Can't defend the tanking. 2012 is far away but it is looking like Bush Sr. A great foreign policy, but domestic policy became his demise. Obama's foreign policy is solid, given the complex international chessboard, but frankly his domestic policies, and leadership suck ass.

But, honestly, who else can lead right now?

ccrunner609 wrote:

ptown_trojans_1 wrote: Can't defend the tanking. 2012 is far away but it is looking like Bush Sr. A great foreign policy, but domestic policy became his demise. Obama's foreign policy is solid, given the complex international chessboard, but frankly his domestic policies, and leadership suck ass.

But, honestly, who else can lead right now?

At this point where the US is economically, who gives a shit about foreign policy?

iclfan2 wrote: So 48% of America is still ratarded? Awesome.

dwccrew wrote:

ptown_trojans_1 wrote: Can't defend the tanking. 2012 is far away but it is looking like Bush Sr. A great foreign policy, but domestic policy became his demise. Obama's foreign policy is solid, given the complex international chessboard, but frankly his domestic policies, and leadership suck ass.

But, honestly, who else can lead right now?

BoatShoes wrote: Well...the American people are fickle and there are some decent economic indicators showing up...if things really do turn around and unemployment even starts to drop a little bit, and the dems can get Pres. Obama on t.v. refuting Republicans more; if there's anything Obama is, he's a decent salesman and I could see people going for it again. But, still early.

I mean in reality, a large reason people are mad at him was because he was talking about cutting 400 billion from an evil/big government/socialist program called Medicare.

bigmanbt wrote:

dwccrew wrote:

ptown_trojans_1 wrote: Can't defend the tanking. 2012 is far away but it is looking like Bush Sr. A great foreign policy, but domestic policy became his demise. Obama's foreign policy is solid, given the complex international chessboard, but frankly his domestic policies, and leadership suck ass.

But, honestly, who else can lead right now?

+1 (obviously)

gibby08 wrote:

bigmanbt wrote:

dwccrew wrote:

ptown_trojans_1 wrote: Can't defend the tanking. 2012 is far away but it is looking like Bush Sr. A great foreign policy, but domestic policy became his demise. Obama's foreign policy is solid, given the complex international chessboard, but frankly his domestic policies, and leadership suck ass.

But, honestly, who else can lead right now?

+1 (obviously)

Ha ha ha...that made me laugh

dwccrew wrote:

But what is truly funny is that blind lambs like you believe that government we have is actually taking car of us instead of leading us to the slaughter. Haven't you noticed that over the past few decades this country has been getting worse and worse? That's because the government is getting bigger and bigger.

Look throughout history, the bigger the government gets, the closer that country was to crumbling.

dwccrew wrote:
But what is truly funny is that blind lambs like you believe that government we have is actually taking car of us instead of leading us to the slaughter. Haven't you noticed that over the past few decades this country has been getting worse and worse? That's because the government is getting bigger and bigger.

Look throughout history, the bigger the government gets, the closer that country was to crumbling.

dwccrew wrote:

gibby08 wrote:

bigmanbt wrote:

dwccrew wrote:

ptown_trojans_1 wrote: Can't defend the tanking. 2012 is far away but it is looking like Bush Sr. A great foreign policy, but domestic policy became his demise. Obama's foreign policy is solid, given the complex international chessboard, but frankly his domestic policies, and leadership suck ass.

But, honestly, who else can lead right now?

+1 (obviously)

Ha ha ha...that made me laugh

But what is truly funny is that blind lambs like you believe that government we have is actually taking car of us instead of leading us to the slaughter. Haven't you noticed that over the past few decades this country has been getting worse and worse? That's because the government is getting bigger and bigger.

Look throughout history, the bigger the government gets, the closer that country was to crumbling.

gibby08 wrote:

dwccrew wrote:

gibby08 wrote:

bigmanbt wrote:

dwccrew wrote:

ptown_trojans_1 wrote: Can't defend the tanking. 2012 is far away but it is looking like Bush Sr. A great foreign policy, but domestic policy became his demise. Obama's foreign policy is solid, given the complex international chessboard, but frankly his domestic policies, and leadership suck ass.

But, honestly, who else can lead right now?

+1 (obviously)

Ha ha ha...that made me laugh

But what is truly funny is that blind lambs like you believe that government we have is actually taking car of us instead of leading us to the slaughter. Haven't you noticed that over the past few decades this country has been getting worse and worse? That's because the government is getting bigger and bigger.

Look throughout history, the bigger the government gets, the closer that country was to crumbling.

For you to call me a blind lamb show how little you know about my political beliefs.

The reasons your suggestion of Dr.Paul(who is in no doubt a highly intelligent man) is ready to lead this nation made me laugh are as follows:

1.The man will be 76 years old by the time the 2012 election comes around. How is a man that old ready to lead?? Will he even be around to serve a full term??

2.The man has already tried multiple times(in multiple parties) to win the nomination,and has failed to convince the American people he is ready to lead. What makes you think he can do it now??

Wow eers....openly rooting for our country to fail...real nice pal


I'm with CBus....If I see a Jefferson quote one more time...I might have to kill myself

Footwedge wrote: Ron Paul would have been the true "Messiah". Some of his views might be a little too archaic, but it would have been a lot of fun watching him veto every fuggin spending bill...including that of the Pentagon.