
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Feb 15, 2010 8:57pm
http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/11/cut-spending-taxes-budget-medicare-paul-ryan-opinions-columnists-bruce-bartlett.html
I think this article basically hits the nail on the head. We're going to be taken down the toilet unless those who won't allow for any tax increases at all get behind the drastic cuts needed to allow for it...
so for all those railing about reducing the size of the gov't, here's your chance...get on the phone, write your congressman...tell them you support this plan in replace of mid-sized cuts and tax increases...
tell those old bags that they're gonna have to die or pay their own medical bills, because we can't do it anymore. The old timers are gonna take this country down...
I think this article basically hits the nail on the head. We're going to be taken down the toilet unless those who won't allow for any tax increases at all get behind the drastic cuts needed to allow for it...
so for all those railing about reducing the size of the gov't, here's your chance...get on the phone, write your congressman...tell them you support this plan in replace of mid-sized cuts and tax increases...
tell those old bags that they're gonna have to die or pay their own medical bills, because we can't do it anymore. The old timers are gonna take this country down...
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Feb 15, 2010 11:27pm
We don't get taxed anywhere near what most of Europe does. Although that's because they're filthy European socialist scum who are clearly misguided.
What's wonderful is that those European elitists that we Americans love to hate are going to be cleaning our clocks economically pretty soon. China is too heavily tied to our economy to be the real threat economically. Though they are growing at a scary pace compared to us.
What's wonderful is that those European elitists that we Americans love to hate are going to be cleaning our clocks economically pretty soon. China is too heavily tied to our economy to be the real threat economically. Though they are growing at a scary pace compared to us.

ManO'War
Posts: 1,420
Feb 16, 2010 12:34am
I'm all for that plan!!!

tk421
Posts: 8,500
Feb 16, 2010 2:14am
Yeah, that plan has about the same of being implemented as I have of walking on the surface of the Sun and surviving.

believer
Posts: 8,153
Feb 16, 2010 2:43am
Not as soon as you might think. Don't get too excited...Socialism doesn't work.I Wear Pants wrote:What's wonderful is that those European elitists that we Americans love to hate are going to be cleaning our clocks economically pretty soon.
You're right...the Chinese are tied to us very heavily. The only reasons the Chinese economy is out-pacing ours is because the communist government subsidizes their industries, our labor rates are too high & theirs are too low, their currency is under-valued, and the Chinese tend to ignore all the environmental regulations our industries (what's left of it anyways) are forced to contend with.I Wear Pants wrote: China is too heavily tied to our economy to be the real threat economically. Though they are growing at a scary pace compared to us.
What goes around comes around. It always does.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Feb 16, 2010 5:53am
If Greece continues to flail I wouldn't be surprised if the EU eventually cuts them loose.

tk421
Posts: 8,500
Feb 16, 2010 2:14pm
Can we do that to California and a couple other states?I Wear Pants wrote: If Greece continues to flail I wouldn't be surprised if the EU eventually cuts them loose.

derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Feb 16, 2010 2:28pm
bottom line is that if one side won't agree with anything if it raises taxes, they need to be willing to come to terms with drastic cuts...I'd love to know how many old tea-party members who are getting medicare would be willing to have it reduced for the good of the country...doubtful.

tk421
Posts: 8,500
Feb 16, 2010 2:38pm
Good luck with that. You probably couldn't get Congress to agree to a new paint color for the walls without 20 forums and committees and countless bribes.derek bomar wrote: bottom line is that if one side won't agree with anything if it raises taxes, they need to be willing to come to terms with drastic cuts...I'd love to know how many old tea-party members who are getting medicare would be willing to have it reduced for the good of the country...doubtful.

derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Feb 16, 2010 2:55pm
that's the point... all these people screaming about taxes when they are either too stupid or selfish to do what is needed to ensure taxes aren't increased.tk421 wrote:Good luck with that. You probably couldn't get Congress to agree to a new paint color for the walls without 20 forums and committees and countless bribes.derek bomar wrote: bottom line is that if one side won't agree with anything if it raises taxes, they need to be willing to come to terms with drastic cuts...I'd love to know how many old tea-party members who are getting medicare would be willing to have it reduced for the good of the country...doubtful.

fish82
Posts: 4,111
Feb 16, 2010 6:02pm
Bottom line...this plan is the only one out there that has a prayer of fixing the problem.
I say put the sucker on the floor and vote on it. Sooner rather than later.
I say put the sucker on the floor and vote on it. Sooner rather than later.

2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Feb 17, 2010 1:40am
god damn baby boomers

CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Feb 17, 2010 8:57am
2quik4u wrote: god damn baby boomers
haha!!!

derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Feb 17, 2010 8:58am
its true isn't it?CenterBHSFan wrote:2quik4u wrote: god damn baby boomers
haha!!!