Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 15, 2010 12:20am
and it wasn't even close as are most things involving Kobe.
Kobe 54%
Lebron 17%
Shaq 13%
Duncan 8%
Nash 5%
Garnett 3%
Kobe 54%
Lebron 17%
Shaq 13%
Duncan 8%
Nash 5%
Garnett 3%
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Feb 15, 2010 12:24am
Interesting that he has raped more women than anyone else on that list. Impressive.
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mallymal614
Posts: 3,746
Feb 15, 2010 12:24am
WowCleveland Buck wrote: Interesting that he has raped more women than anyone else on that list. Impressive.
jspitaleri
Posts: 161
Feb 15, 2010 12:26am
Not bad for LeBron to finish second on the list for only playing a little more than 1/2 of the decade.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 15, 2010 12:30am
I'd like to see the basketball one.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Feb 15, 2010 12:31am
Crock of shit. Kobe shouldn't have finished 1, LeBron shouldn't have finished 2.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Feb 15, 2010 12:34am
Shaq hasn't been relavent for the last 3 years. Kobe is just now hitting his prime evident by 2 straight Finals appearences.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Feb 15, 2010 12:48am
he wasnt in his prime when he won 3 straight titles? thats right, shaq was the team.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Feb 15, 2010 12:48am
I think just about everybody will agree that kobe's play has regressed this year. But he should win player of the decade seeing that he was 3-4 years on lebron.
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Feb 15, 2010 12:50am
u right cause a guy averaging 28.5/5.9/5/1.7 is a role playerPick6 wrote: he wasnt in his prime when he won 3 straight titles? thats right, shaq was the team.
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Feb 15, 2010 12:51am
hes been injured half the year so far and besides this isn't part of the decadePick6 wrote: I think just about everybody will agree that kobe's play has regressed this year. But he should win player of the decade seeing that he was 3-4 years on lebron.
namod65
Posts: 508
Feb 15, 2010 12:53am
I agree with the TNT guys on this list. The fans have a really short memory. It's Shaq and it's not even close. If it wasn't for Shaq, Kobe would be watching Chris Webber and the Kings winning those titles on TV. It's doubtful that the paint will ever be dominated again like it was by Shaq.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Feb 15, 2010 12:55am
Dirk would have been a champ too and not D-Wade.namod65 wrote: I agree with the TNT guys on this list. The fans have a really short memory. It's Shaq and it's not even close. If it wasn't for Shaq, Kobe would be watching Chris Webber and the Kings winning those titles on TV. It's doubtful that the paint will ever be dominated again like it was by Shaq.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Feb 15, 2010 1:00am
What about if the Cavs win it with Shaq? Will Lebron get the same treatment as Kobe and D-Wade, or will it be because of Lebron?
It's a 2 way street.
It's a 2 way street.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 15, 2010 1:02am
^^Depends on who you ask.
I think it's pretty obvious who is the leader of the Cavs.
I think it's pretty obvious who is the leader of the Cavs.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Feb 15, 2010 1:03am
It's not a 2 way street. Shaq led that Laker team, clearly. That's not even up for debate, that was "his" team. D-Wade led that Miami team, especially in the Finals but without Shaq they don't win it. Without Shaq the Cavs won't win it, but they've at least been there before without him and it's definitely LeBron's team. Shaq's playing a smaller role than he did in either of the other stops. But again, no individual wins a title himself, so the whole argument is really pretty stupid. JJ Hickson could get shipped to Phoenix and if the Cavs end up the champs even he would have to get some credit for it.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Feb 15, 2010 1:05am
I'm not debating who the leader is, it's clearly Lebron, but in Miami the leader was D-Wade as well.wildcats20 wrote: ^^Depends on who you ask.
I think it's pretty obvious who is the leader of the Cavs.
I guarantee that if the CAvs win, you'll hear how Lebron can't win without Shaq. It'll be the same thing.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 15, 2010 1:08am
Oh I totally agree. What I meant was, if you ask haters they will say "LeBron can't win without Shaq." But if you ask someone unbiased, they will tell you basically what SQ said. The Heat and the Lakers would not have won titles when they did without Shaq.dwccrew wrote:I'm not debating who the leader is, it's clearly Lebron, but in Miami the leader was D-Wade as well.wildcats20 wrote: ^^Depends on who you ask.
I think it's pretty obvious who is the leader of the Cavs.
I guarantee that if the CAvs win, you'll hear how Lebron can't win without Shaq. It'll be the same thing.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Feb 15, 2010 1:08am
the closest anybody has gotten to winning a title by themselves was the cavs making it to the finals the year they lost to the spurs.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Feb 15, 2010 1:08am
Kobe can't win without Pau Gasol.
What do you think of that?
Jordan couldn't win without Pippen.
Shaq couldn't win without Kobe. Or D-Wade.
KG couldn't win it without Pierce and Allen.
Allen couldn't win it without Pierce and KG.
Pierce couldn't win it without KG and Allen.
See a trend?
What do you think of that?
Jordan couldn't win without Pippen.
Shaq couldn't win without Kobe. Or D-Wade.
KG couldn't win it without Pierce and Allen.
Allen couldn't win it without Pierce and KG.
Pierce couldn't win it without KG and Allen.
See a trend?
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cview
Posts: 351
Feb 15, 2010 1:17am
People voted for the guys that have wowed them more recently. Shaq and then Tim Duncan...after that Kobe and LBJ are fine IMO. I'd be ok with flip-flopping Duncan and Kobe.
Also, every title team needs at least two studs. The proof is there as SQ has pointed out. Kobe and DWade wouldn't have won without Shaq. Shaq wouldn't have won without Kobe or DWade. Hell, he got swept in the Finals in Orlando with Penny and couldn't even get there with Nash and Stoudemire.
Also, every title team needs at least two studs. The proof is there as SQ has pointed out. Kobe and DWade wouldn't have won without Shaq. Shaq wouldn't have won without Kobe or DWade. Hell, he got swept in the Finals in Orlando with Penny and couldn't even get there with Nash and Stoudemire.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Feb 15, 2010 1:35am
im pretty sure sky would surgically attach his mouth to kobe's junk if he could
krazie45
Posts: 1,055
Feb 15, 2010 1:56am
Only 1 guy ever did it by himself and that was Hakeem in a Jordan-less NBA...
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Feb 15, 2010 1:59am
LOL, ever heard of Clyde Drexler?krazie45 wrote: Only 1 guy ever did it by himself and that was Hakeem in a Jordan-less NBA...
And had it not been for gambling being illegal and frowned upon, Hakeem never would have won it.
krazie45
Posts: 1,055
Feb 15, 2010 2:09am
I'd check that 1993-94 Houston Rockets roster if I were you.....The Glide ain't on it buddySQ_Crazies wrote: LOL, ever heard of Clyde Drexler?
And had it not been for gambling being illegal and frowned upon, Hakeem never would have won it.