If You Don't Get The Job...Do You Want A Call?

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Upper90

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Feb 12, 2010 3:18 PM
I lean towards "yes".

I've got a friend searching pretty heavily for a job, and some of his interview stories have horrified me. Well, he's been on 3, and 2 of the 3 have horrified me. In one case, he states that he was asked his religion (He, like myself, has an Arabic name.) (But, still....Where they do that at????), and in this latest one, he went in for 2 interviews, was told that he was one of two final candidates, was called by the person he interviewed with, and was told that he would get "called back shortly"....and didn't hear anything, and it's been a week.

I suggested that he send a polite email expressing his displeasure with the Situation.

And then I suggested that he send a polite email voicing his displeasure with the way the interview process was handled as well.

Thoughts? IMO, if you bring someone in for multiple interviews, and they take that time out, the LEAST you can do is shoot a rejection email, am I incorrect?
Feb 12, 2010 3:18pm
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Upper90

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Feb 12, 2010 3:18 PM
And as an aside, I've had to make "That" call to someone that interviewed for a position at my job, and it sucks, and it's uncomfortable, and I get it. But, it's far, far better than just not getting a hold of them at all. (There's also only like 6 people at my job, so it had to fall on someone. Anyone that knows me knows that I should be in no position to do anything responsible.)
Feb 12, 2010 3:18pm
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Feb 12, 2010 3:22 PM
Unfortunately it's an employers market.

I would maybe send an e-mail inquiring the status but not voice any type of displeasure with the process. Might get a call back at a later date, and showing angst may derail that.
Feb 12, 2010 3:22pm
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Feb 12, 2010 3:24 PM
Good point, I do suppose that my question is this....as it IS an employers market....should potential employees be treated with less respect?

And if so, why/why not?

I strictly say no, because it could make things difficult for that company (especially a smaller company) some time down the road.
Feb 12, 2010 3:24pm
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Feb 12, 2010 3:26 PM
Maybe they just have yet to make a decision. I used to work for a guy who was a sales manager, he would interview potential sales people and tell them he would get back to them. He never did, he wanted them to have the initiative to call him back. His theroy was if they aren't going to call him back to get a job are they going to call their potential customers back once they get a job?
Feb 12, 2010 3:26pm
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Feb 12, 2010 3:27 PM
If they directly asked "what religion do you practice" that is very illegal.
Feb 12, 2010 3:27pm
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Feb 12, 2010 3:29 PM
THE4RINGZ wrote: Maybe they just have yet to make a decision. I used to work for a guy who was a sales manager, he would interview potential sales people and tell them he would get back to them. He never did, he wanted them to have the initiative to call him back.
That's a decent, yet flawed theory.

Here's the thing, and take EVERYTHING I say here with a grain elevator of salt, I've interviewed for maybe one job since I started working the one I have now years ago....but if I get told that I'm going to get a call back....I simply expect a call back.

I can see this strategy working in some cases, but for me, I don't know that I'd want to work for someone that plays that kind of a hand.

In this particular case, the decision was said to be made on Friday (last Friday), which is why he was called and told he'd be called back "shortly", according to him, that is.
Feb 12, 2010 3:29pm
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Feb 12, 2010 3:30 PM
khujo wrote: If they directly asked "what religion do you practice" that is very illegal.
He told me that he left that interview promptly.

Again, though, this is all being told to me by someone else. Someone who I am good friends with, however I was not actually there for any of this, to be clear.

In my younger days, I interviewed at Borders and was asked what my religion was, more out of curiosity, it sounded. I answered. Didn't think anything of it....I ended up getting the job, though. I was again, pretty young, didn't know the details behind asking that.
Feb 12, 2010 3:30pm
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Feb 12, 2010 3:34 PM
Upper90 wrote:
THE4RINGZ wrote: Maybe they just have yet to make a decision. I used to work for a guy who was a sales manager, he would interview potential sales people and tell them he would get back to them. He never did, he wanted them to have the initiative to call him back.
That's a decent, yet flawed theory.

Here's the thing, and take EVERYTHING I say here with a grain elevator of salt, I've interviewed for maybe one job since I started working the one I have now years ago....but if I get told that I'm going to get a call back....I simply expect a call back.

I can see this strategy working in some cases, but for me, I don't know that I'd want to work for someone that plays that kind of a hand.

I didn't say I agreed with the strategy I was only reporting what I know can go on. Maybe as some advice as to why he hasn't gottena call back yet. And the guy was a pretty decent sales manager.
Feb 12, 2010 3:34pm
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Feb 12, 2010 3:36 PM
First, bringing religion into an interview is a no no and if the interviewers boss were to find out I'm sure he would disapprove. Grounds for a discrimination suit for sure.

On getting a call, I would always want one. Even if I didn't get it, I would like to ask why. But I understand if the employer interviews 50 plus people, it is hard to call everyone back. But if you are in the the final 5 or 3 I feel you should get a call either way.
Feb 12, 2010 3:36pm
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Feb 12, 2010 3:37 PM
I can definitely see the purpose behind using that strategy in a sales setting, for sure.
Feb 12, 2010 3:37pm
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Feb 12, 2010 3:37 PM
Definitely an employer's market. When I started the job I currently have over 4 years ago, I went in thru a temp agency. They called the agency wanting 12 people(only needed 5). By the first break, there were only 5 picked to stay(me included), the rest sent home with the saying,"we'll call you when we need you." Think any of them got a call? Nope

I'm the only one still there out of that 5.
Feb 12, 2010 3:37pm
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Feb 12, 2010 3:51 PM
A call would be nice, but I think lots of times you won't get it. I'd even take an email that the position has already been filled.
Feb 12, 2010 3:51pm
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Feb 12, 2010 4:02 PM
Maybe it is just my industry, but I've never received nor have I known anyone that received a call or e-mail for a rejection, it is always snail mail and it always says the same thing - "impressed with your credentials, at this time going another direction, good luck in future endeavors, yadda yadda yadda"
Feb 12, 2010 4:02pm
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Feb 12, 2010 4:11 PM
I'd rather receive an email and have it say that if you have any questions about the reasoning please call xxx for a stern stalking to.
Feb 12, 2010 4:11pm
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Feb 12, 2010 4:11 PM
I've never understood why a company would say "we'll let you know" after and interview and then never let you know! Most of the time they probably already have decided not to hire you, so just tell me then. If they really do have other people to interview and decide later, then tell me that you'll "let me know if we decide to hire you." That way if I don't get a call, I know for sure. If they just say we'll let you know and they don't then you don't know for sure. I had a friend once who got 3 days into training for a new job when another company called and offered her a job three weeks after her interview. Since they hadn't "let her know" by that point she assumed she hadn't gotten the job and moved on to looking elsewhere. She really wanted the other job, so she quit where she had just started training and took the other job. Bad situation for her and a worse situation for the company that hired her and started her though training.
Feb 12, 2010 4:11pm
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Feb 12, 2010 4:13 PM
I want the call.
Feb 12, 2010 4:13pm
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Feb 12, 2010 4:34 PM
I don't need strangers calling me telling me I'm a loser.
Feb 12, 2010 4:34pm
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Feb 12, 2010 4:40 PM
I've only had one interview where I wasn't offered a job and I believe I received a call letting me know that I didn't have enough experience yet for the position. A few months later they called me back and asked if I wanted to interview again but I had already found a new job. This was pushing three years ago and I've since changed jobs a few times.
Feb 12, 2010 4:40pm
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Feb 12, 2010 4:47 PM
I want the call.

At my old job, I was in a position to interview potential candidates. I would always call them (sometimes that same day) and let them know if they got the job or not. For those that did not get the job, I would answer any questions that they had regarding the decision and why we did not go with them.

I was always taught by the people that trained me on how to conduct interviews that regardless of whether you are offering the job, or saying that you are going a different direction, calling a candidate is the professional thing to do.
Feb 12, 2010 4:47pm
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Feb 12, 2010 4:56 PM
I think it is common courtesy to be honest with someone. If you are not going to hire someone, at least e-mail them so they can pursue other options.
Feb 12, 2010 4:56pm
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Feb 12, 2010 6:42 PM
HitsRus wrote: I think it is common courtesy to be honest with someone. If you are not going to hire someone, at least e-mail them so they can pursue other options.
This. Unfortunately...it just doesn't happen everytime. I've actually never received a call back or email anytime I've never got the job. Even if they say they would let me know.
Feb 12, 2010 6:42pm
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Feb 12, 2010 6:45 PM
A call just seems like the decent thing to do.
Feb 12, 2010 6:45pm