Can Bo Ryan Win it All

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Feb 3, 2010 11:46 AM
Not necessarily this year, but any year.I think Ryan might be the best system coach in the country.He loses people to graduation or injury and his team just keeps on going on.

But, he doesn't sign that 5 star players and his home state is not a hotbed for college basketball.

Do you think he could win it all at some point in time???
Feb 3, 2010 11:46am
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Feb 3, 2010 11:53 AM
Wisconsin is a hard sell in terms of recruiting. Were he able to bring in a couple ringers from time to time and have them stay a couple seasons I would say he would definitely have a shot. I've said before that I can't think of any other coach who accomplishes so much with what could be argued as marginal talent. He's really good.
Feb 3, 2010 11:53am
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Feb 3, 2010 11:55 AM
Not unless he gets a couple studs in there to go with the other players. Some coaches coach better with lesser talent. Some coaches prefer it that way as well. I personally think Bo Ryan is a GREAT coach, one of the top in the country. His teams are as solid on both ends as anyone in the country year in and year out. But, no matter how great a coach you are, you still have to have talent to consistently get past the more talented teams. Wisky can beat any team on any given night. But to do it multiple times in a row, NCAA...is a different story.

BTW, last nite was a thing of beauty! They absolutely put on a clinic from start to finish vs MSU.
Feb 3, 2010 11:55am
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Feb 3, 2010 12:05 PM
He could, if he managed to convince just a few studs to stay two years in Madison. One of the best coaches in the country, currently.
Feb 3, 2010 12:05pm
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Feb 3, 2010 12:29 PM
I don't think he necessarily needs some studs, although they would certainly help. And he can recruit, as he got Devin Harris and Evan Turner was down to OSU and Wisconsin.

The thing that he could benefit from is that he gets system guys and could have a team of seniors and as the game gets younger and younger he could exploit that. I could see him with a senior laden team with a lot of experience getting hot and being able to beat a team like a Kentucky who is more talented, but less experienced.
Feb 3, 2010 12:29pm
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centralbucksfan

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Feb 3, 2010 1:15 PM
thedynasty1998 wrote: I don't think he necessarily needs some studs, although they would certainly help. And he can recruit, as he got Devin Harris and Evan Turner was down to OSU and Wisconsin.

The thing that he could benefit from is that he gets system guys and could have a team of seniors and as the game gets younger and younger he could exploit that. I could see him with a senior laden team with a lot of experience getting hot and being able to beat a team like a Kentucky who is more talented, but less experienced.
Uh, he has already done this. Its his 9th year at Wisky. He has had senior teams/system players/ with usually one stud. Again, to beat a team like UK is possible on any given nite. But to beat multiple very good teams in a row, with "system" players, would be difficult to do. Especially when your prep time is limited between games.
Boise is able to do it in football similar when they have a month to prepare for a bowl game. Throw them in a major conference, they are looking at 3-5 losses on a regular basis. Much different doing it week in and week out with limited time to prepare.

Not saying he "can't" do it. I think he could. But it won't be easy. And yes I know its not easy for anything...but still tougher at a place like Wisky.
Feb 3, 2010 1:15pm
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Feb 3, 2010 1:20 PM
^^^He didnt get Harris, Dick Bennett did. I think his only 5 star ever is Brian Butch. He has gotten some very solid 4 stars and some 3 stars that fit his system well.

But he will never win a championship while at Wisconsin. I just dont see how it will ever happen.
Feb 3, 2010 1:20pm
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Feb 3, 2010 1:31 PM
Was Alando Tucker a 5 star?
Feb 3, 2010 1:31pm
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RiverRat13

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Feb 3, 2010 1:33 PM
No. And honestly, if I'm a Wisconsin fan, I can live with that. He has taken Wisconsin as high as they can go.

I would argue that the type of athletes he would need to win a title would not stay long enough to become proficient in the Swing Offense.
Feb 3, 2010 1:33pm
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Feb 3, 2010 1:35 PM
Krabenhoft or w/e was a 5 star too. And Bohannon, Trevon Hughes,Steimsma,Leur, Nankivil,Berggren were all 4 stars. So its not like hes doing it with all nobodies
Feb 3, 2010 1:35pm
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Feb 3, 2010 1:59 PM
Hb31187 wrote: Krabenhoft or w/e was a 5 star too. And Bohannon, Trevon Hughes,Steimsma,Leur, Nankivil,Berggren were all 4 stars. So its not like hes doing it with all nobodies
Tucker was a 2001 recruit I believe and I dont think Rivals has their stars back that far. But if so, Tucker wasnt really highly regarded. Im not saying he isnt getting very good players. But they are just that, very good, not great/championship caliber.

This is a list of the only players he has gotten in the Top 100

Butch, Steimsma, Krabbenhoft, Leur, Nakivil, Bergrren (ALL big white guys, not above the rim/athletic players)

Bohannon (mostly a shooter, who has developed a solid overall game. Cant beat his man off the dribble, cant finish in traffic w/contact, is not a slasher who can get above the rim)

Hughes (his best recruit to date, imo. A guy who is athletic, can creat his own shot, and can slash and get to the hoop.....not to sound racist, but its no surprise he is the only black kid on this list).

Ryan simply wont win with these types of players. You can call it decent recruiting based on stars, but a lot of those guys wouldnt be quite as integral to their teams if they were playing on the top programs. They just arent the game changers despite the relatively high rankings.
Feb 3, 2010 1:59pm
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Feb 3, 2010 5:51 PM
I don't think his style of play will allow him to win a title. Too little margin for error, and you are at the will of how the game will be officiated. Teams with superior speed will break them if the refs call tight games and prevent the wisconsin defenders from getting their hands on opposing players to prevent offensive movement.
Feb 3, 2010 5:51pm
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Feb 3, 2010 8:13 PM
Too many buzz cuts.
Feb 3, 2010 8:13pm