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rocket31
Posts: 460
Jan 30, 2010 1:46pm
if interested...
1 Matthew Stafford 5 star
2 Jason Smith 2 star
3 Tyson Jackson 3 star
4 Aaron Curry 2 star
5 Mark Sanchez 5 star
6 Andre Smith 5 star
7 Heyward-Bey 4 star
8 Eugene Monroe 5 star
9 B.J. Raji 2 star
10 Michael Crabtree 4 star
11 Aaron Maybin 4 star
12 Knowshon Moreno 4 star
13 Brian Orakpo 4 star
14 Malcolm Jenkins 3 star
15 Brian Cushing 4 star
16 Larry English 2 star
17 Josh Freema 4 star
18 Robert Ayers 4 star
19 Jeremy Maclin 4 star
20 B Pettigrew 2 star
21 Alex Mack 2 star
22 Percy Harvin 5 star
23 Michael Oher 4 star
24 Peria Jerry 3 star
25 Vontae Davis 3 star
26 Clay Matthews 2 star Walk-on
27 Donald Brown 3 star
28 Eric Wood 2 star
29 Hakeem Nicks 4 star
30 Kenny Britt 4 star
31 Chris Wells 5 star
32 Evander Hood 3 star
5 Stars - 6 18.5%
4 Stars - 12 38%
3 Stars - 6 18.5%
2 Stars - 8 25%
1 Matthew Stafford 5 star
2 Jason Smith 2 star
3 Tyson Jackson 3 star
4 Aaron Curry 2 star
5 Mark Sanchez 5 star
6 Andre Smith 5 star
7 Heyward-Bey 4 star
8 Eugene Monroe 5 star
9 B.J. Raji 2 star
10 Michael Crabtree 4 star
11 Aaron Maybin 4 star
12 Knowshon Moreno 4 star
13 Brian Orakpo 4 star
14 Malcolm Jenkins 3 star
15 Brian Cushing 4 star
16 Larry English 2 star
17 Josh Freema 4 star
18 Robert Ayers 4 star
19 Jeremy Maclin 4 star
20 B Pettigrew 2 star
21 Alex Mack 2 star
22 Percy Harvin 5 star
23 Michael Oher 4 star
24 Peria Jerry 3 star
25 Vontae Davis 3 star
26 Clay Matthews 2 star Walk-on
27 Donald Brown 3 star
28 Eric Wood 2 star
29 Hakeem Nicks 4 star
30 Kenny Britt 4 star
31 Chris Wells 5 star
32 Evander Hood 3 star
5 Stars - 6 18.5%
4 Stars - 12 38%
3 Stars - 6 18.5%
2 Stars - 8 25%

stroups
Posts: 3,223
Jan 30, 2010 1:52pm
That is interesting
There is probably a reason that Clay Mathews went from a 2 star walk on to a first round draft pick
There is probably a reason that Clay Mathews went from a 2 star walk on to a first round draft pick

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rocket31
Posts: 460
Jan 30, 2010 2:00pm
haha, indeed.
i think it should be noted that there are more 2 or 3 star players than there are 5 star players in each class...however, it is interesting to see that there were more 2 star players drafted than 4 stars in last years draft.
i think it should be noted that there are more 2 or 3 star players than there are 5 star players in each class...however, it is interesting to see that there were more 2 star players drafted than 4 stars in last years draft.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jan 30, 2010 2:05pm
FAIL. If you are going to make fun or bash someone, you should probably get the names right.stroups wrote: That is interesting
There is probably a reason that Clay Mathews went from a 2 star walk on to a first round draft pick
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That's Brian Cushing and not Clay Matthews.

Tigerfan00
Posts: 3,427
Jan 30, 2010 2:23pm
That would be a megaburn.
Stroups with an Epic Fail
Stroups with an Epic Fail

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 30, 2010 2:28pm
Yeah I was going to say, that is definitely not Clay Matthews. Nice try though. haha

stroups
Posts: 3,223
Jan 30, 2010 3:12pm
welp, my bad

Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jan 30, 2010 3:56pm
So the lesson, according to that data, is: most of your stars are rated 4 and 5 stars when coming out of high school.
Recruiting is definitely an inexact science, but in this case at least the majority of top rated players were the majority getting selected as first rounders.
Recruiting is definitely an inexact science, but in this case at least the majority of top rated players were the majority getting selected as first rounders.
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rocket31
Posts: 460
Jan 30, 2010 4:09pm
North - South senior bowl game is on now if any are interested...
tebow set to take his first snap at the moment
tebow set to take his first snap at the moment
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rocket31
Posts: 460
Jan 30, 2010 4:12pm
tony pike takes over for the north!

stroups
Posts: 3,223
Jan 30, 2010 4:14pm
what channel is it on?
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rocket31
Posts: 460
Jan 30, 2010 4:16pm
NFL network

thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jan 30, 2010 4:16pm
Is it on the NFL network?

stroups
Posts: 3,223
Jan 30, 2010 4:17pm
Aww..... What the French toast

Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Jan 30, 2010 8:50pm
But the real question is how many 5 stars, 4 stars, 3 stars, 2 stars, and 1 stars were there total in the class? Correct me if I'm wrong, but there will be waaaaay more 2 stars than 5 stars.
What % of a certain star rating make it to the first round, that would be an interesting statistic... it'd show more clearly how accurate the system is. The ratings are based off potential and if % wise the numbers fit in order, than I'd say recruiting is doing pretty well.
What % of a certain star rating make it to the first round, that would be an interesting statistic... it'd show more clearly how accurate the system is. The ratings are based off potential and if % wise the numbers fit in order, than I'd say recruiting is doing pretty well.
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Soda Popinski
Posts: 367
Jan 30, 2010 9:29pm
Thats one reason I hate when people talk about how amazing it is that a 3 star turned out better than a 5 star and act like its the norm. Fact is there are a lot more 3 star guys than 5 star so there is bound to be a few that turn out to be really good. I am not saying that star ratings are everything, but it there is a reason the top teams are where they are year after year. It's because they bring in the best players. They get the higher rated players and they are the most successful teams.Fly4Fun wrote: But the real question is how many 5 stars, 4 stars, 3 stars, 2 stars, and 1 stars were there total in the class? Correct me if I'm wrong, but there will be waaaaay more 2 stars than 5 stars.
What % of a certain star rating make it to the first round, that would be an interesting statistic... it'd show more clearly how accurate the system is. The ratings are based off potential and if % wise the numbers fit in order, than I'd say recruiting is doing pretty well.

Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Jan 31, 2010 6:55am
Great post Rocket.
Everyone gets so caught up in the rating system, half the time those ratings are awful. Most of the people who judge a player by his star rating has never even watched the kids play.
Everyone gets so caught up in the rating system, half the time those ratings are awful. Most of the people who judge a player by his star rating has never even watched the kids play.

bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 31, 2010 9:59am
There was a player that was a 2 start last week, urban meyer offered him and over night...4 star....Trueblue23 wrote: Great post Rocket.
Everyone gets so caught up in the rating system, half the time those ratings are awful. Most of the people who judge a player by his star rating has never even watched the kids play.

Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Jan 31, 2010 11:21am
The new Top 250 also came out, so Meyer offering him may not have had anything to do with it.bases_loaded wrote:There was a player that was a 2 start last week, urban meyer offered him and over night...4 star....Trueblue23 wrote: Great post Rocket.
Everyone gets so caught up in the rating system, half the time those ratings are awful. Most of the people who judge a player by his star rating has never even watched the kids play.

NNN
Posts: 902
Jan 31, 2010 11:32am
There's also a fair number of players who switch positions upon entering college. Although it's not the most recent set of examples, I remember Tennessee switching Jason Witten from defensive end to tight end, John Henderson from guard to defensive tackle, Fred Weary from defensive tackle to guard, and Donte Stallworth from tight end to receiver. Any one of those guys would have been *, **, or maybe *** at their "normal" position, and all became high draft picks from a position they'd have been ranked much higher at coming out of high school.
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charliehustle14
Posts: 2,224
Jan 31, 2010 11:43am
Who is the player? I thought you may be talking about Tyler Murphy, but he's still listed as a 2 star on Rivals.bases_loaded wrote:There was a player that was a 2 start last week, urban meyer offered him and over night...4 star....Trueblue23 wrote: Great post Rocket.
Everyone gets so caught up in the rating system, half the time those ratings are awful. Most of the people who judge a player by his star rating has never even watched the kids play.

ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jan 31, 2010 11:43am
I never put much stock/thought into the star ratings, other than a basic rating of skill. There are too many variables to consider with the transition to the college level/living away from home etc...can't possibly get a good gauge on those and project success.