majorspark wrote:
eersandbeers wrote:
Include the fact that Israel has snubbed their nose at any attempt Obama has tried to reign in the settlements. Including their latest statements saying they will never give back certain parts of the West Bank.
As I have stated many times this world is governed by the aggressive use of force. You can go back thousands of years and find lands now possessed by palestinians in the West Bank, in the past posessions of the Jews/Romans/British/Ottoman Empire just to name a few of the major players.
There is a reason why they will never give up certain parts of the West Bank. The same reason the USA will not give up the southwest to Mexico. The same reason you would not give up your home to an inferior power's ancestors (native Americans) that once possessed it. It is now your home and only the agressive use of a greater force would drive you from it. That is all the Isreali government is stating.
The generation of Irsealis born in the West Bank would no sooner give up their only known home to the Palestinians than you would give yours to the native Americans. It would take the force of arms to remove them from where they grew up just as the force of arms would be needed to remove you from the land you grew up in.
I think this is a great post, however, I do think there is a bit of difference between how the earliest American settlers stole land from the natives of this region and how Israel was basically setup by the Allied powers.
The founders of this country stole the land for themselves from the natives. The Allied powers stole land from the Palestineans to setup Israel. Granted long ago the land the Palestineans had belonged to Jews long ago and to someone before that and before that, but as you stated and aggressive force overtook the occupiers of that land. In the case of Isreal, the Allied powers put them there, not the jes themselves.
Writerbuckeye wrote:
2kool4skool wrote:
Writerbuckeye wrote:
2kool4skool wrote:
Writerbuckeye wrote:
The term is anti-Semite -- and I have absolutely zero doubt he is one down deep in his I'd-love-to-really-be-a-Marxist heart.
You have "zero doubt" about what someone you've never
meant really thinks... You must be quite intelligent, if only your posts on this thread reflected that.
If you're going to call out my intelligence, at least be smart enough to use the proper word. :rolleyes:
You're right, it was late, spaced it. Now, stop deflecting and address your hatred for Obama that borders on insanity. I'm sure you loved to call the liberals that had this over-the-top hatred for Bush stupid/crazy/whatever, and now look at yourself. Pounding away at your keyboard all day about evil Obama, without a rational or intelligent post in the bunch.
You need glasses.
I've provided plenty of reasons, rationale and links to opinions/factual articles that show why I have such deep, deep disgust for the policies of this administration.
You may not LIKE why I feel this way, but those feelings are based on (1) where Obama comes from (2) his lack of real experience (3) who he surrounded himself with after he entered public life (4) and the continual LIES he has been caught in since he began taking stances on issues.
The man is virtually schizophrenic when it comes to many of these issues, and waffles on too many others.
Mr. Obama has provided plenty of fodder in a very short time as to why he is the most inept, incompetent man to hold the office of President since Jimmy Carter.
That is all fine and good, but you are stating your opinion about how you feel Obama views jews, so why are you saying you have brought up factual argument when it doesn't apply to this situation that some are calling you out on?
