
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Jan 9, 2010 10:39am
Sets the record for winning the most MVPs. Only player to do it 4 times.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4811050
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4811050
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ZombieKiller
Posts: 817
Jan 9, 2010 10:42am
He is probably going to go down as the best QB ever.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Jan 9, 2010 10:42am
It's pretty much already a done deal.ZombieKiller wrote: He is probably going to go down as the best QB ever.

Hesston
Posts: 516
Jan 9, 2010 10:58am
he may need to win another super bowl to be considered greatest ever, but I agree he is in the discussion
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 9, 2010 11:51am
I'm pleasantly surprised that the topic hasn't (yet) broken down into a bunch of illogical rants on why it's not deserved. Well done, Mr. Manning, you are one of the greats.
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grass_licker
Posts: 119
Jan 9, 2010 11:55am
he needs to win more super bowls to go down as the best ever, he could also fart and the nfl would give him mvp, and peyton will not win a super bowl this year either

Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jan 9, 2010 12:16pm
Keebler wrote:It's pretty much already a done deal.ZombieKiller wrote: He is probably going to go down as the best QB ever.
Done deal???
I have him at #7 All time and don't see him moving up unless he wins at least 1 more Super Bowl and gets to a couple more.
1. Montana
2. Favre
3. Brady
4. Marino
5. Elway
6. Johhny Unitas
7. Manning
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ZombieKiller
Posts: 817
Jan 9, 2010 12:33pm
Marino over Manning???
Marino never won a Super Bowl and all his records are going to be passed by Manning.
Marino never won a Super Bowl and all his records are going to be passed by Manning.
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Al Capone
Posts: 1,727
Jan 9, 2010 12:35pm
Where's Bradshaw?Skyhook79 wrote:Keebler wrote:It's pretty much already a done deal.ZombieKiller wrote: He is probably going to go down as the best QB ever.
Done deal???
I have him at #7 All time and don't see him moving up unless he wins at least 1 more Super Bowl and gets to a couple more.
1. Montana
2. Favre
3. Brady
4. Marino
5. Elway
6. Johhny Unitas
7. Manning

gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Jan 9, 2010 12:41pm
Wheres Esiason?Al Capone wrote:Where's Bradshaw?Skyhook79 wrote:Keebler wrote:It's pretty much already a done deal.ZombieKiller wrote: He is probably going to go down as the best QB ever.
Done deal???
I have him at #7 All time and don't see him moving up unless he wins at least 1 more Super Bowl and gets to a couple more.
1. Montana
2. Favre
3. Brady
4. Marino
5. Elway
6. Johhny Unitas
7. Manning
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Fabio
Posts: 547
Jan 9, 2010 12:57pm
Where's Neil O'Donnell?gerb131 wrote:Wheres Esiason?Al Capone wrote:Where's Bradshaw?Skyhook79 wrote:Keebler wrote:It's pretty much already a done deal.ZombieKiller wrote: He is probably going to go down as the best QB ever.
Done deal???
I have him at #7 All time and don't see him moving up unless he wins at least 1 more Super Bowl and gets to a couple more.
1. Montana
2. Favre
3. Brady
4. Marino
5. Elway
6. Johhny Unitas
7. Manning

Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jan 9, 2010 1:02pm
Wheres Derek Anderson?Fabio wrote:Where's Neil O'Donnell?gerb131 wrote:Wheres Esiason?Al Capone wrote:Where's Bradshaw?Skyhook79 wrote:Keebler wrote:It's pretty much already a done deal.ZombieKiller wrote: He is probably going to go down as the best QB ever.
Done deal???
I have him at #7 All time and don't see him moving up unless he wins at least 1 more Super Bowl and gets to a couple more.
1. Montana
2. Favre
3. Brady
4. Marino
5. Elway
6. Johhny Unitas
7. Manning

killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Jan 9, 2010 1:05pm
Neil fuckin' Lomax, bitches.Rotinaj wrote:Wheres Derek Anderson?Fabio wrote:Where's Neil O'Donnell?gerb131 wrote:Wheres Esiason?Al Capone wrote:Where's Bradshaw?Skyhook79 wrote:Keebler wrote:It's pretty much already a done deal.ZombieKiller wrote: He is probably going to go down as the best QB ever.
Done deal???
I have him at #7 All time and don't see him moving up unless he wins at least 1 more Super Bowl and gets to a couple more.
1. Montana
2. Favre
3. Brady
4. Marino
5. Elway
6. Johhny Unitas
7. Manning

hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jan 9, 2010 1:12pm
/end!killer_ewok wrote:Neil fuckin' Lomax, bitches.Rotinaj wrote:Wheres Derek Anderson?Fabio wrote:Where's Neil O'Donnell?gerb131 wrote:Wheres Esiason?Al Capone wrote:Where's Bradshaw?Skyhook79 wrote:Keebler wrote:It's pretty much already a done deal.ZombieKiller wrote: He is probably going to go down as the best QB ever.
Done deal???
I have him at #7 All time and don't see him moving up unless he wins at least 1 more Super Bowl and gets to a couple more.
1. Montana
2. Favre
3. Brady
4. Marino
5. Elway
6. Johhny Unitas
7. Manning

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 9, 2010 2:45pm
He's the best QB to ever play the game, no doubt about it.

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jan 9, 2010 2:48pm
The sad thing is, Philip Rivers was equally deserving... Can't argue with Manning winning it, but I think it could have been a co-MVP, similar to when Manning and McNair shared it..

2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Jan 9, 2010 3:19pm
should have went to CJ
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Jan 9, 2010 7:39pm
What's the logic in having Favre and Marino over Manning because Peyton needs to win and go to more super bowls?Skyhook79 wrote:Keebler wrote:It's pretty much already a done deal.ZombieKiller wrote: He is probably going to go down as the best QB ever.
Done deal???
I have him at #7 All time and don't see him moving up unless he wins at least 1 more Super Bowl and gets to a couple more.
1. Montana
2. Favre
3. Brady
4. Marino
5. Elway
6. Johhny Unitas
7. Manning
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ZombieKiller
Posts: 817
Jan 9, 2010 7:44pm
I didn't pay attention earlier. But why do you have Unitas over Manning?

justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jan 9, 2010 11:14pm
Yeah, WTF puts Favre and Marino over Manning? You can't give Manning shit for winning only one SB when Marino has won zero and Favre has won one and Manning will clearly beat them in all passing statistics before he retires.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 9, 2010 11:22pm
I'm not arguing....but let's name all the good RB's for Marino....he had a couple of good receivers for 5-7 years...but not Harrison and Wayne.....
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Jan 10, 2010 3:09am
Peyton Manning plays with a lot of talent and for a fantastic organization. He is a stud and the Colts organization is a machine itself. Just a great setting for a great quarterback to become the best. I'm a gigantic Brett Favre fan, he will always be my favorite and the greatest in my opinion. But he won't be the best; that is Payton Manning's.

BuckeyeBlue
Posts: 561
Jan 10, 2010 10:07am
If Manning's career were to end today, I would probably put him at 3 or 4 on my all time list. Behind Elway and Montana, and I flip-flop between him and Favre. However, his career is pretty likely to end today. The Colts organization did a great job of building around Peyton. They made sure to keep a top notch line in front of him to minimize the amount of punishment he'll take over his career. His receivers have been a force for years, and their running game isn't terrible (when Adai is healthy). With that said, I think Peyton is playing the position at a higher level than anybody else ever has. I would be shocked if when all is said and done, he doesn't hold every major passing record, and isn't widely regarded as the best ever.
And this MVP was very deserved. Peyton played great all season long, and was on the verge of leading his team to an undefeated season, but had the opportunity taken from him. Rivers, Brees, and Johnson were all very deserving as well, and I really don't think any one would have been a "wrong" choice here.
And this MVP was very deserved. Peyton played great all season long, and was on the verge of leading his team to an undefeated season, but had the opportunity taken from him. Rivers, Brees, and Johnson were all very deserving as well, and I really don't think any one would have been a "wrong" choice here.
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Swamp Fox
Posts: 2,218
Jan 10, 2010 10:34am
I second the MVP Award to Peyton Manning. He is simply a winner. I would agree however, that it doesn't hurt him to be in the Indianapolis organization. They have provided the perfect accompaniment for Peyton to flourish in basically a punishment free environment. The question is, given all of the advantages Peyton has had, how many other quarterbacks could come close to the success that he has enjoyed during his tenure In Indianapolis? A small handful at the very most.

Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jan 10, 2010 10:39am
Marino didn't have any running game whatsoever and didn't have the great recievers that Manning has had. and still put up incredible numbers when the defense knew they were going to pass. Favre also wasn't blessed with much of a running game or recievers and has won 1 Super Bowl and gotten to another.justincredible wrote: Yeah, WTF puts Favre and Marino over Manning? You can't give Manning shit for winning only one SB when Marino has won zero and Favre has won one and Manning will clearly beat them in all passing statistics before he retires.
Farve also played a lot of games in inclement weather where Manning played a lot of his games in domes.