
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 31, 2017 9:10pm
Everyone throw their predictions in for the 4
1. Bama
2. OSU
3. Clemson
4. Oklahoma
1. Bama
2. OSU
3. Clemson
4. Oklahoma

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 31, 2017 9:32pm
Bama
OSU
Oklahoma
Georgia
OSU
Oklahoma
Georgia

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 31, 2017 9:43pm
I really feel Clemson loses again but believe Georgia and ND get unexpectedly upset before this is over. I think the great karma of Dabo continues and they make it though, avoiding maybe a couple close close callsSportsAndLady;1879662 wrote:Bama
OSU
Oklahoma
Georgia

Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Oct 31, 2017 11:13pm
1. Georgia
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Ohio State
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2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Ohio State
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Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Nov 1, 2017 5:18am
Georgia
Oklahoma
Ohio State
Miami
Oklahoma
Ohio State
Miami

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 1, 2017 10:16am
I’ll be shocked if Miami keeps getting by.Classyposter58;1879697 wrote:Georgia
Oklahoma
Ohio State
Miami

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 1, 2017 10:17am
Va Tech gets them this weekend.Ironman92;1879732 wrote:I’ll be shocked if Miami keeps getting by.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Nov 1, 2017 10:54am
I've been thinking about this since I posted in the other thread about last night's rankings, and Ironman92 suggested the SEC might get two teams.
I now think that if Alabama wins the SEC, then the SEC is getting two teams in the playoffs, provided that Bama is 13-0 and Georgia is 12-1. Georgia's only loss would be to the SEC champ, and they will have a huge non-conference road win over Notre Dame. If Notre Dame doesn't take a nose dive over the next few weeks, then Georgia's resume is pretty solid. If Notre Dame wins out, then their resume is good enough to be in the playoff. Only thing holding them back would be a lack of a conference championship. So, if the committee thinks an 11-1 Notre Dame should be in, then a 12-1 Georgia automatically has to be in since they won head-to-head against Notre Dame.
Basically, it seems to me that Ohio State needs to root for Bama or Georgia to lose a game before the SEC Championship, and then wants UGA to win the conference since their resume is a little better than Bama's. OSU would also want to root against Notre Dame obviously, and maybe hope that Clemson or Oklahoma drops a game. Clearly, there are many scenarios that would knock out a couple teams ahead of them, but Ohio State might be in more trouble than I originally thought. For them, it's simple though. Win out, be the Big Ten Champ, and then hope that the normal losses that happen down the stretch actually do happen again this year.
I now think that if Alabama wins the SEC, then the SEC is getting two teams in the playoffs, provided that Bama is 13-0 and Georgia is 12-1. Georgia's only loss would be to the SEC champ, and they will have a huge non-conference road win over Notre Dame. If Notre Dame doesn't take a nose dive over the next few weeks, then Georgia's resume is pretty solid. If Notre Dame wins out, then their resume is good enough to be in the playoff. Only thing holding them back would be a lack of a conference championship. So, if the committee thinks an 11-1 Notre Dame should be in, then a 12-1 Georgia automatically has to be in since they won head-to-head against Notre Dame.
Basically, it seems to me that Ohio State needs to root for Bama or Georgia to lose a game before the SEC Championship, and then wants UGA to win the conference since their resume is a little better than Bama's. OSU would also want to root against Notre Dame obviously, and maybe hope that Clemson or Oklahoma drops a game. Clearly, there are many scenarios that would knock out a couple teams ahead of them, but Ohio State might be in more trouble than I originally thought. For them, it's simple though. Win out, be the Big Ten Champ, and then hope that the normal losses that happen down the stretch actually do happen again this year.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 1, 2017 11:08am
If everyone wins out(and Bama wins the SEC), OSU will be in Phoenix...on the outside looking in.
Hell, they might even make it an OU/OSU rematch.
Hell, they might even make it an OU/OSU rematch.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 1, 2017 11:11am
Or a 2003 Miami rematch.wildcats20;1879747 wrote:If everyone wins out(and Bama wins the SEC), OSU will be in Phoenix...on the outside looking in.
Hell, they might even make it an OU/OSU rematch.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 1, 2017 12:34pm
At least 3 big upsets to the current top 8 will happen and change things up big. Guaranteed

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 1, 2017 12:41pm
This post confuses me. You’re saying OSU would be in the playoffs or out?wildcats20;1879747 wrote:If everyone wins out(and Bama wins the SEC), OSU will be in Phoenix...on the outside looking in.
Hell, they might even make it an OU/OSU rematch.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 1, 2017 12:55pm
Out of the playoffs and playing OU in another bowl?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 1, 2017 1:14pm
wildcats20;1879747 wrote:If everyone wins out(and Bama wins the SEC), OSU will be in Phoenix...on the outside looking in.
Hell, they might even make it an OU/OSU rematch.
Since the semis are in California and New Orleans, and the NC being in Atlanta, I'm assuming he's saying they're not?SportsAndLady;1879764 wrote:This post confuses me. You’re saying OSU would be in the playoffs or out?

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 1, 2017 1:26pm
Out. They would be back in Phoenix at the Fiesta Bowl.SportsAndLady;1879764 wrote:This post confuses me. You’re saying OSU would be in the playoffs or out?

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 1, 2017 1:37pm
I don’t think I agree. Finishing the season with wins against Iowa, Michigan State, Michigan, and wisky will lock them in. Remember, the committee loves wins against quality opponents.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 1, 2017 1:39pm
If several teams win out, we're in for a clusterfuck.
If all win out, then what...
ND
OSU
PSU
Oklahoma
Clemson
Bama
Georgia with 1 loss
If all win out, then what...
ND
OSU
PSU
Oklahoma
Clemson
Bama
Georgia with 1 loss

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 1, 2017 1:48pm
I’d be interested in knowing the probability of that all happening. Probably have an equal chance of winning the lottery than 7 teams winning out in their remaining 5 games.Automatik;1879778 wrote:If several teams win out, we're in for a clusterfuck.
If all win out, then what...
ND
OSU
PSU
Oklahoma
Clemson
Bama
Georgia with 1 loss
But yeah, if it actually did happen there’d be bedlam lol
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 1, 2017 2:07pm
Agreed--if we win out, we're in. Period.SportsAndLady;1879777 wrote:I don’t think I agree. Finishing the season with wins against Iowa, Michigan State, Michigan, and wisky will lock them in. Remember, the committee loves wins against quality opponents.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 1, 2017 2:35pm
I definitely think one or a few will slip up, but you never know. Personally, I'd like to see Oklahoma go down hard to OSU and TCU.SportsAndLady;1879780 wrote:I’d be interested in knowing the probability of that all happening. Probably have an equal chance of winning the lottery than 7 teams winning out in their remaining 5 games.
But yeah, if it actually did happen there’d be bedlam lol
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Nov 1, 2017 2:35pm
I thought this too initially, but right now, only Michigan State and Wisconsin are ranked. Iowa and Michigan wouldn't be "quality wins", as it stands now. In my opinion, they're quality wins because they're road wins against decent teams, but they're not ranked so that hurts the SOS.SportsAndLady;1879777 wrote:Finishing the season with wins against Iowa, Michigan State, Michigan, and wisky will lock them in. Remember, the committee loves wins against quality opponents.
The more I look at it, the more I don't like Ohio State's chances. But like I92 and you said, some upsets are probably inevitable.

FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Nov 1, 2017 2:36pm
Unless you're Penn State last year, these things have a way of working themselves out. I'm not worried until later in the year.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 1, 2017 3:26pm
I'm just the opposite--after listening to the talking heads last night, as well as to Hocutt, I feel extremely confident we're in as long as we win out.ironman02;1879797 wrote:
The more I look at it, the more I don't like Ohio State's chances. But like I92 and you said, some upsets are probably inevitable.

dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Nov 1, 2017 3:29pm
It's honestly way too early to make any predictions. Generally the top 4 in the first playoff poll lose at least 2 by season's end. I think as long as Ohio State keeps winning and doing it convincingly, they'll get in.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 1, 2017 4:02pm
Clemson got ranked so high yesterday because of their “quality wins”. Teams like Georgia tech and wake forest had winning records so they called it a quality win.ironman02;1879797 wrote:I thought this too initially, but right now, only Michigan State and Wisconsin are ranked. Iowa and Michigan wouldn't be "quality wins", as it stands now. In my opinion, they're quality wins because they're road wins against decent teams, but they're not ranked so that hurts the SOS.
The more I look at it, the more I don't like Ohio State's chances. But like I92 and you said, some upsets are probably inevitable.
Michigan and Iowa, especially on the road, are quality wins if ga tech and wake forest are too.