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Nov 30, 2017 2:14 PM
like_that;1884100 wrote:You weren’t paying attention then.
To the extent that people said it about Watson? Maybe I’m misremembering but I don’t remember hearing it with rg3 to that extent.
Nov 30, 2017 2:14pm
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Nov 30, 2017 2:16 PM
Heretic;1884101 wrote:I remember Said had a hard-on for RG3; who else here did?
Oh, I wasn’t talking about OC. I was talking about the media love fest for RGIII. A lot of Cleveland bashing too for not trading for him.
Nov 30, 2017 2:16pm
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Nov 30, 2017 2:47 PM
like_that;1884103 wrote:Oh, I wasn’t talking about OC. I was talking about the media love fest for RGIII. A lot of Cleveland bashing too for not trading for him.
There was a lot of talk about RGIII's maturity level, having come from a strict military upbringing, well grounded, etc. before the draft.
Nov 30, 2017 2:47pm
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Nov 30, 2017 2:53 PM
Must not have translated to the next level. i.e. bragging he could influence the coaching decision in year 2.
Nov 30, 2017 2:53pm
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Nov 30, 2017 5:51 PM
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/film-room/2017/film-room-browns-defense

"Emmanuel Ogbah, Myles Garrett, Danny Shelton, and Larry Ogunjobi all have one thing in common: they routinely make plays that players of their stature shouldn't make. Building a dominant defensive line is usually the first step towards building a dominant defense. With these four guys still under their rookie contracts, the Browns will have a chance to build a terrifying defense before they have to break the bank on their young, talented, and productive defensive linemen. The Moneyball strategy is starting to take form, Browns fans (and media) just need to be patient."

Another point, Baker Mayfield's Passing Chart this season:



God damn, that is crazy. Kid can spin it, that's for sure.
Nov 30, 2017 5:51pm
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Nov 30, 2017 7:14 PM
Automatik;1884092 wrote:...and the high praise from Dabo.
Is this considered a positive attribute?
Nov 30, 2017 7:14pm
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Nov 30, 2017 7:30 PM
Verbal Kint;1884135 wrote:Is this considered a positive attribute?
I don’t think a coach praising their QB is a positive attribute. But Dabo didn’t just endorse him, he said those who don’t draft him are passing on michael Jordan. That’s pretty high praise and obviously the browns ignored that to be able to draft another left guard in the 2nd round.
Nov 30, 2017 7:30pm
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Nov 30, 2017 10:00 PM
Lol come on s&l
Nov 30, 2017 10:00pm
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Nov 30, 2017 10:34 PM
I'm bored, and went back to the offseason thread last year. Some good stuff in there.

Tooting my own horn here:
SportsAndLady;1791901 wrote:I like Wentz. Take Wentz.
SportsAndLady;1791788 wrote: @adamschefter
"Today's trade was big win for Cleveland; its leverage for No. 2 pick went way up. Anyone who wants next QB now needs to pay up to Cleveland."

And the Browns should tell them to fuck directly off.

Yes, let's trade the pick to take a mid round DE instead of putting a top QB on our team to build for the future.

The franchise is desperate for a QB and this is why. They continue to fuck around with a top pick instead of focusing on QB's.
Iliketurtles;1791776 wrote:What move by the Titans. I like it it a lot they could become very good in a couple of years if they hit on half of these picks. As for the Rams don't like it but they had to do something... rolling out Case Keenum as your starting QB in LA wouldn't have cut it lol.
Case Keenum having a great 2017!
Classyposter58;1791871 wrote:Goff is garbage. I'm sorry but go watch the Cal vs Utah game this year again, guy throws 5 picks in SLC. He's Jay Cutler at best
Classy, lulz.
Azubuike24;1791905 wrote:If the QB the Browns draft is Matt Ryan, they won't ever win a thing. Matt Ryan is pretty bad now.
Right before Matt Ryan won the MVP and was this close to winning the SB, LOL his next post he said he'd rather have Jay Cutler than Matt Ryan.
Nov 30, 2017 10:34pm
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Nov 30, 2017 10:39 PM
SportsAndLady;1884136 wrote:I don’t think a coach praising their QB is a positive attribute. But Dabo didn’t just endorse him, he said those who don’t draft him are passing on michael Jordan. That’s pretty high praise and obviously the browns ignored that to be able to draft another left guard in the 2nd round.
My point was it was Dabo saying it.
Nov 30, 2017 10:39pm
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Nov 30, 2017 10:46 PM
SportsAndLady;1812394 wrote:Kizer is leading his team to a 21-21 tie game against mighty Duke.
iclfan2;1812400 wrote:You're better than this. He doesn't play defense.


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SportsAndLady;1812406 wrote:They just lost. And he didn't look that good, outside a few good throws.

Brady Quinn anyone?
iclfan2;1812408 wrote:I'll agree he didn't look great. But his stats are better than Watson's vs Troy. Wins and losses don't have much say in a singe player's evaluation.
I mean what's your point really? There are two top guys as of now, and neither has done "great". Watson sure hasn't done anything yet to separate himself, and multiple professional evaluators like Kizer's size and talent. Kelly could fuck him if he try's playing 2 qbs again though.

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Nov 30, 2017 10:46pm
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Nov 30, 2017 10:48 PM
Benny The Jet;1809537 wrote:Eagles saying Wentz to start if healthy. When's the last time a team got #1 & 2 picks on a draft? Answer...2016.
Oh man..I remember when he made this post. We jumped on him for an idiotic jinx
Nov 30, 2017 10:48pm
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Nov 30, 2017 10:50 PM
like_that;1792432 wrote:Also, we can't just assume the Browns FO would fuck up if they were given all those draft picks in a trade. We are falling victim to being a Browns fan where everything is a disaster. This is a brand new regime. What farmer/Pettine/holmgren/heckert/banner did with all those picks have no bearing on this team now.

I get it. We have needed a QB since 1999, but I'm just not desperate enough to give up a big trade like that for somebody like wentz or goff (especially wentz). This team also also has a shit ton of other needs. If we punt and get a top QB next year I won't QQ.
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Nov 30, 2017 10:50 PM
SportsAndLady;1884159 wrote:Oh man..I remember when he made this post. We jumped on him for an idiotic jinx
That was dumb as fuck, but not as dumb as t-bone saying he series was over when the tribe were up 3-1.
Nov 30, 2017 10:50pm
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Dec 1, 2017 7:37 AM
Any thoughts/expectations for Gordon on Sunday? I can see Kizer throwing a couple of ill advised picks into tight coverage, trying to force the ball to Gordon too much, ala Brian Hoyer.
Dec 1, 2017 7:37am
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Dec 1, 2017 8:15 AM
BR1986FB;1884177 wrote:Any thoughts/expectations for Gordon on Sunday? I can see Kizer throwing a couple of ill advised picks into tight coverage, trying to force the ball to Gordon too much, ala Brian Hoyer.
13 catches, 234 yds, 2 tds
Dec 1, 2017 8:15am
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Dec 1, 2017 9:24 AM
6 catches, 131 yards

I really do think Gordon is that good, that he can take 3 years off and in his first game back go for 100+
Dec 1, 2017 9:24am
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Dec 1, 2017 9:53 AM
SportsAndLady;1884187 wrote:6 catches, 131 yards

I really do think Gordon is that good, that he can take 3 years off and in his first game back go for 100+
All reports I've heard from practice is that he looks "lights out" and in incredible shape. Has been catching one handed passes, etc like he hasn't missed a beat. The best part about this is that, with him on the field, it moves the other receivers to their rightful positions......Coleman to #2 and Britt to #3. Britt's should actually be "on the waiver wire" but I have no issue with him being a third option.
Dec 1, 2017 9:53am
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Dec 1, 2017 10:51 AM
And Peppers gets fined 24k for that hit last Sunday.
Dec 1, 2017 10:51am
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Dec 1, 2017 10:56 AM
SportsAndLady;1884187 wrote:6 catches, 131 yards

I really do think Gordon is that good, that he can take 3 years off and in his first game back go for 100+
I do too, but we could also be delusional lol. He hasn't played a real game in over two years? Regardless, I have enough confidence that in my fantasy league (where I need a win to make the playoffs) I picked up Gordon and started him. High risk move, that I think will pay off.

BR1986FB;1884211 wrote:And Peppers gets fined 24k for that hit last Sunday.
I saw that, and this is a fucking disgrace. I am sure they are going to use Peppers' words against him too (Peppers owned up to the hit and didn't blame the refs if anyone needs a refresher) during his appeal. Peppers being a stand up/no excuse guy is going to cost him $24K. An expensive lesson for him to learn, but don't give Goodell anything next time that will indict him.
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Dec 1, 2017 10:59 AM
like_that;1884212 wrote:
I saw that, and this is a fucking disgrace. I am sure they are going to use Peppers' words against him too (Peppers owned up to the hit and didn't blame the refs if anyone needs a refresher) during his appeal. Peppers being a stand up/no excuse guy is going to cost him $24K. An expensive lesson for him to learn, but don't give Goodell anything next time that will indict him.
Heard an interview with Peppers yesterday where he basically said "you're damned if you do, damned if you don't." If you hit high and connect helmet to helmet, it's a penalty and likely a fine. If you go low, you're looked at by your peers as a "dirty player." That's such a bang bang play where the player really can't adjust and target the one foot area that they are actually allowed to hit now.
Dec 1, 2017 10:59am
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Dec 1, 2017 11:27 AM
So peppers was fined more for his legal hit than this:


https://gfycat.com/UnsungDistortedAnt

/Goodell logic
Dec 1, 2017 11:27am
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Dec 1, 2017 12:56 PM
BR1986FB;1884177 wrote:Any thoughts/expectations for Gordon on Sunday? I can see Kizer throwing a couple of ill advised picks into tight coverage, trying to force the ball to Gordon too much, ala Brian Hoyer.
Like I said, I actually can't wait to watch. Really intrigued to see what he does after being off for so long.
Dec 1, 2017 12:56pm
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Dec 1, 2017 1:35 PM
If you are in the pipe dream of Manning as GM or whatever camp, I would think chances are less now that Tennessee's shit show continues with he firing of the AD.
Dec 1, 2017 1:35pm