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Nov 16, 2017 4:27 PM
Verbal Kint;1881866 wrote:2 quality NFL QBs are under 6'2", which come combine day, will Mayfield reach that height?
For percentage, how many quality QBs we using? 15? 20?
If the Browns draft him and he overcomes the size difference, great.
He does appear to have a nice high arm angle with his release. Hopefully that helps him adapt.
I am not against, I am just cautious.
Right now, 15 might be an over-estimation just because of how many of those guys who've been considered good are nearing the ends of their careers and are suffering through declines. Roethlisberger is having probably his worst year ever statistically, while ones like Rivers, Manning and Palmer all are pretty mediocre this year. Add in the inconsistent performances by younger guys like Newton, Mariota and Winston; Flacco reverting to pure trash, Dalton never turning the corner to becoming good and depending on your definition of "quality" as it pertains to QBs, it might be hard to get much above double digits. And that's with giving Watson and Goff the benefit of the doubt despite only having about half a year of starting for both of them.
Nov 16, 2017 4:27pm
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Nov 16, 2017 5:03 PM
Crimson streak;1881965 wrote:https://twitter.com/DMurph_BrownsPR/status/931181134037372929?s=17

This literally blows my mind.


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Nov 16, 2017 5:03pm
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Nov 17, 2017 11:36 AM
Really really pathetic:

Nov 17, 2017 11:36am
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Nov 17, 2017 12:47 PM
Duke and Crow are a fine tandem. We don't need a rb that early.
Nov 17, 2017 12:47pm
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Nov 17, 2017 1:10 PM
kizer permanente;1882071 wrote:Duke and Crow are a fine tandem. We don't need a rb that early.
They aren't going to pony up for Crowell in FA when they can get a younger guy in the draft. If he's Tomlinson or Peterson, in their primes, you might pay, but not for an average RB like Crow.
Nov 17, 2017 1:10pm
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Nov 17, 2017 1:26 PM
BR1986FB;1882073 wrote:They aren't going to pony up for Crowell in FA when they can get a younger guy in the draft. If he's Tomlinson or Peterson, in their primes, you might pay, but not for an average RB like Crow.
crow can test the waters, but I think he'll be disappointed.
Nov 17, 2017 1:26pm
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Nov 17, 2017 1:32 PM
kizer permanente;1882080 wrote:crow can test the waters, but I think he'll be disappointed.
No doubt. I wouldn't necessarily use a high(er) pick on a RB, unless it was someone like Zeke (minus the baggage). It's been proven time & time again that if you have a solid O-Line/blocking scheme, you can do pretty well with later round backs.
Nov 17, 2017 1:32pm
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Nov 18, 2017 10:15 PM
Mayfield looks like a huge douchebag lol
Nov 18, 2017 10:15pm
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Nov 19, 2017 9:02 AM
kizer permanente;1882249 wrote:Mayfield looks like a huge douchebag lol
He really is the biggest fucking dickbag in the world.

That being said if (big if) he’s a franchise QB, cool with me.
Nov 19, 2017 9:02am
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Nov 19, 2017 10:22 AM
I thought the Mayfield stuff was funny. Saw a few scouts saying at this point they like Rosen and Darnold (probably not coming out) over Mayfield, but that was before Rosen last night too. I’ll take either.

New Lacanfora article on Haslam really being serious on getting Peyton in there.


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Nov 19, 2017 11:57 AM
The way UCLA receivers drop passes Rosen would be right at home with the Browns.
Nov 19, 2017 11:57am
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Nov 19, 2017 11:56 PM
I'd take Rosen easily because that's one of my QB rules. If some guy tears it up with a non blue blood or on a mediocre team in college he's probably going to be a hell of a player in the NFL. Look at the top QBs, only really Newton, Stafford, Brady, Mariota played for great programs.

Of course Drew Brees became incredible, guy won a Big 10 and Rose Bowl with Purdue. Lol fucking Purdue
Nov 19, 2017 11:56pm
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Nov 20, 2017 7:53 AM
I like the idea of Rosen. He definitely has the physical tools, and he is cocky enough to actually believe he would turn around a shitty franchise. I don’t give a shit if people get their feelz hurt, because he is an asshole. There are also a decent amount of Jews in Cleveland, so he will fit right in.
Nov 20, 2017 7:53am
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Nov 20, 2017 7:56 AM
Btw, I know we like to talk about all of the QBs we have missed out on (and all of our fucking picks in general), but we are also terrible at hiring coaches. I remember during the chud/Petrine hiring shit show I suggested we hire Zimmer. Haslam and co were butt hurt, because Zimmer pretty much told them why the Browns have been god awful. Zimmer keeps going thru QBs and he finds a way to be be competitive. Another terrible decision by the Browns, that nobody seems to talk about.
Nov 20, 2017 7:56am
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Nov 20, 2017 11:46 AM
like_that;1882488 wrote:Btw, I know we like to talk about all of the QBs we have missed out on (and all of our fucking picks in general), but we are also terrible at hiring coaches. I remember during the chud/Petrine hiring shit show I suggested we hire Zimmer. Haslam and co were butt hurt, because Zimmer pretty much told them why the Browns have been god awful. Zimmer keeps going thru QBs and he finds a way to be be competitive. Another terrible decision by the Browns, that nobody seems to talk about.
Yep agreed. If I recall correctly you were on the Zimmer TBW pairing that year, would have been nice. Pretty sad when I think 70% of posters on a minor league ohio forum would be 1,000,000X better than anyone we've had.
Nov 20, 2017 11:46am
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Nov 20, 2017 12:00 PM
Commander of Awesome;1882535 wrote:Pretty sad when I think 70% of posters on a minor league ohio forum would be 1,000,000X better than anyone we've had.
Bet we would've hit on more draft picks over the last 10 years.
Nov 20, 2017 12:00pm
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Nov 20, 2017 8:06 PM
Duke Johnson had 6 touches Sunday. Seems like a good idea to not use your beat play maker on offense. Njoku had 1


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Nov 20, 2017 9:31 PM
iclfan2;1882581 wrote:Duke Johnson had 6 touches Sunday. Seems like a good idea to not use your beat play maker on offense. Njoku had 1
Lowering expectations
Nov 20, 2017 9:31pm
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Nov 21, 2017 10:48 AM
They are going to pick a QB with the first pick, I will take that bet with anyone. I know COA loves himself some Mayfield, but I hope it isn't him. I am not sold on him being a NFL QB. The Manziel comparisons will probably scare the Haslams too.
Nov 21, 2017 10:48am
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Nov 21, 2017 12:08 PM
BR1986FB;1882640 wrote:It's Grossi, FWIW, but if those are the two free agents QB's they are interested in, I will projectile vomit....

http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland/post/_/id/4286/note-to-the-haslams-here-is-how-to-fix-your-broken-organization
He sounds angry. Relax, grossi, the browns aren’t trading for tyrod freakin taylor and probably won’t draft Mayfield.
Nov 21, 2017 12:08pm
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Nov 21, 2017 12:21 PM
SportsAndLady;1882646 wrote:He sounds angry. Relax, grossi, the browns aren’t trading for tyrod freakin taylor and probably won’t draft Mayfield.
Taylor's projected to be a FA. Bills will likely let him walk. If want no part of this current FO, with their metrics, SPARQ scores, etc having any part of selecting a QB.
Nov 21, 2017 12:21pm
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Nov 21, 2017 12:43 PM
BR1986FB;1882647 wrote:Taylor's projected to be a FA. Bills will likely let him walk. If want no part of this current FO, with their metrics, SPARQ scores, etc having any part of selecting a QB.
Trade, free agent who cares. They’re not going after tyrod taylor. They’ll draft a QB at 1 overall.
Nov 21, 2017 12:43pm