iclfan2;1878950 wrote:Call me crazy but I don’t know how you slow down a full speed Alonso at a full speed qb going for a first down who then suddenly pulls up and starts sliding. How does Alonso get out of the way? I’m ok with the penalty, but don’t think it was malicious or “dirty”.


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mhs95_06;1878947 wrote:I think it is too gray an area of what constitutes a legal give up, and where the ball is spotted when it is legal. The quarterback shouldn't be allowed to be going full speed into a high risk Rea with a lot to gain with each foot of ground he gets, like a 1st down, and just drop down, and not expect to be hit. I think on that play, as late as Flacco went down he should not expect to be hit. I agree that the defender could have avoided the punishing hit on the QB. With a properly written rule and official's interpretation, I think that play should have been ruled as penalty on the QB for inappropriate " giving up" , and a penalty on the defense for unnecessary roughness and the net result of the play should not be a first down or an ejection. Furthermore, I think if the defender would have not have hit them the officials probably would have ruled it a first down. Maybe they should spot the ball on "give ups" maybe a yard back from where it would have been, just as a cost of bailing out on playing football the way it was meant to be.

friendfromlowry;1878946 wrote:This game fucking sucks.

BoatShoes;1878969 wrote:Personally think boring ass games are much more to blame for slumping ratings...

Compare to College Football...I never get interested in NFL games that aren't my team to the point where it is must-see-tv but am always interested in watching top-ten teams.

Maybe it is because I know the Browns have no shot at the Playoffs lol.

SportsAndLady;1878978 wrote:It’s not the dirtiest hit we’ve ever seen, but it was still pretty bad. I’m sure it wasn’t Kiko being a POS he just fucked up and hit a QB during a “give up” slide which is just a no-no.

Laley23;1878993 wrote:

So, he wasn't almost done sliding when kiko was 5 yard away, but clearly was sliding at the point. Still think he had plenty of time to abort.

like_that;1878979 wrote:With the speed of the game, I just have a hard time blaming these guys sometimes. You can make everyone out to be a villain with slow-mo. I also don't blame Harbaugh for getting in Kiko's face. Fuck the Ravens, but it would be nice to have a coach that would do that for the Browns.

BoatShoes;1878969 wrote:Personally think boring ass games are much more to blame for slumping ratings...

Compare to College Football...I never get interested in NFL games that aren't my team to the point where it is must-see-tv but am always interested in watching top-ten teams.

Maybe it is because I know the Browns have no shot at the Playoffs lol.

BR1986FB;1879002 wrote:Not that I wish anything bad on Flacco but the Rats are going to need to start looking for his replacement, as soon as this draft. Signed him to that huge contract and he's been extremely underwhelming. Think he's only above Kizer in QBR (for qualifying QB's) and, since 2015, think he's averaged over an INT per game.

like_that;1878977 wrote: Flacco was trying his hardest to get the fist down and thus he slid later than he should have. Kiko was trying his hardest to prevent a first down. It seemed to me they were simultaneously beginning their "collide," and you can tell Kiko turns his shoulder.

friendfromlowry;1879016 wrote:Agreed. Like everyone else, I have friends/family members that are big football fans. No one GAF about the kneeling. I said this a couple the weeks ago but the injuries are killing games. Last night was a great example. "Oh boy! Matt Moore vs Joe Flacco/Ryan Mallett!"

gut;1879031 wrote:I think this happens a lot. If Flacco continues running for the first down, Kiko can't go higher where he might get hit with helmet-to-helmet. So he lowers his target, and then a late slide puts him in an ugly strike zone.

And you do see QB's sometimes take advantage of a defender letting up expecting a slide. It's a football play. I don't think a QB should be able to create a penalty (or fine) with a late slide.