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Jun 13, 2017 2:50 PM
Last time I started this thread, the Cavs won the title. What limited moves will the Cavs be making?
Jun 13, 2017 2:50pm
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Jun 13, 2017 3:19 PM
Sign David Griffin is #1 priority.

#2, Call Indiana and see what it would take to get Paul George.

#3, put anyone not named KI/LBJ on the market particularly Shumpert.

#4, get rid of James Jones. Why? Because dude is pure shit, sign him as a coach if you want him there just for mentorship.
Jun 13, 2017 3:19pm
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Jun 13, 2017 3:23 PM
I've never been a big fan of trading Love, and he actually had several solid finals games. But last night was a joke. They can't pay him $22-25 million/annually to continue to do this.
Jun 13, 2017 3:23pm
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Jun 13, 2017 3:46 PM
friendfromlowry;1858782 wrote:I've never been a big fan of trading Love, and he actually had several solid finals games. But last night was a joke. They can't pay him $22-25 million/annually to continue to do this.
But will someone else?
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Jun 13, 2017 3:54 PM
Ironman92;1858791 wrote:But will someone else?
They shouldn't, no. But maybe he's better off in a situation where he isn't the distant third best player.
Jun 13, 2017 3:54pm
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Jun 13, 2017 3:59 PM
friendfromlowry;1858782 wrote:I've never been a big fan of trading Love, and he actually had several solid finals games. But last night was a joke. They can't pay him $22-25 million/annually to continue to do this.
I don't disagree at all. I think he's seriously on the table now.
Jun 13, 2017 3:59pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:01 PM
sleeper;1858781 wrote:Sign David Griffin is #1 priority.

#2, Call Indiana and see what it would take to get Paul George.

#3, put anyone not named KI/LBJ on the market particularly Shumpert.

#4, get rid of James Jones. Why? Because dude is pure shit, sign him as a coach if you want him there just for mentorship.
I'd also kick the tires on Jimmy Butler as well.
Jun 13, 2017 4:01pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:02 PM
Commander of Awesome;1858801 wrote:I'd also kick the tires on Jimmy Butler as well.
I don't think the Bulls give him up but that would be a great add.
Jun 13, 2017 4:02pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:03 PM
I could see a 3 way trade type deal involving either the lakers or celtics. With love and shump going to Boston or LA. The cavs getting George or butler and the 1 or 2 pick going to Indy or Chicago. Honestly it makes a lot of sense for all 3 teams


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Jun 13, 2017 4:03pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:03 PM
If Melo is bought out, I'd bet he winds up in Cleveland.
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Jun 13, 2017 4:03 PM
Commander of Awesome;1858801 wrote:I'd also kick the tires on Jimmy Butler as well.
What were you saying the other day with the new CBA that TT's contract isn't that bad to try and trade?
Jun 13, 2017 4:03pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:05 PM
Crimson streak;1858804 wrote:I could see a 3 way trade type deal involving either the lakers or celtics. With love and shump going to Boston or LA. The cavs getting George or butler and the 1 or 2 pick going to Indy or Chicago. Honestly it makes a lot of sense for all 3 teams


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Wait, how?

LA: Give up #2 Pick, get Love and a bum
Cavs: Give up Love get PG
IN: Get #2 pick

Why would LA do that?
Jun 13, 2017 4:05pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:05 PM
Love Butler's game...he does tend to miss 15 games a year but if healthy for that much and playoffs that would work.

What's the status of Gordon Hayward?
Jun 13, 2017 4:05pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:05 PM
sleeper;1858803 wrote:I don't think the Bulls give him up but that would be a great add.
They almost traded him this season. I think he is very attainable


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Jun 13, 2017 4:06 PM
friendfromlowry;1858806 wrote:What were you saying the other day with the new CBA that TT's contract isn't that bad to try and trade?
Correct, that is not an obstacle to dealing TT. I don't see why the cavs would though. TT ain't bringing back a PG/Butler/KD and he's still young, effective.
Jun 13, 2017 4:06pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:08 PM
Commander of Awesome;1858805 wrote:If Melo is bought out, I'd bet he winds up in Cleveland.
Also a possibility but honestly I don't want him.
Jun 13, 2017 4:08pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:09 PM
Commander of Awesome;1858807 wrote:Wait, how?

LA: Give up #2 Pick, get Love and a bum
Cavs: Give up Love get PG
IN: Get #2 pick

Why would LA do that?
There might be some other fillers but it makes sense for the lakers if they aren't sold on ball. You get an all star pf who played at ucla and is still pretty young and it speeds up there rebuild. The lakers want to be competitive now not later. I could easily see them doing that


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Jun 13, 2017 4:10 PM
Commander of Awesome;1858810 wrote:Correct, that is not an obstacle to dealing TT. I don't see why the cavs would though. TT ain't bringing back a PG/Butler/KD and he's still young, effective.
No no. I'm not suggesting they trade him. Just wanted more info because I thought his contract would make it difficult even if they wanted to. Just wanted you to explain more the CBA part.
Jun 13, 2017 4:10pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:12 PM
sleeper;1858812 wrote:Also a possibility but honestly I don't want him.
Agree. Hate his defense but also wonder if being in contention if his defense became a bit better....could definitely see him hitting some big shots in big playoff games. He's quickly running out of time.

To me he is interesting.....but about 3-4 others are better choices.
Jun 13, 2017 4:12pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:21 PM
Commander of Awesome;1858807 wrote:Wait, how?

LA: Give up #2 Pick, get Love and a bum
Cavs: Give up Love get PG
IN: Get #2 pick

Why would LA do that?
They wouldn't. Absolutely stupid.
Jun 13, 2017 4:21pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:23 PM
Commander of Awesome;1858810 wrote:Correct, that is not an obstacle to dealing TT. I don't see why the cavs would though. TT ain't bringing back a PG/Butler/KD and he's still young, effective.
The question has to be answered though; Does TT help you beat the Warriors? Yes or no?

Hard to say if TT just had a bad series, but he was a pretty massive liability on the court because he wasn't able to get offensive rebounds and that's his whole game.
Jun 13, 2017 4:23pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:29 PM
Crimson streak;1858813 wrote:There might be some other fillers but it makes sense for the lakers if they aren't sold on ball. You get an all star pf who played at ucla and is still pretty young and it speeds up there rebuild. The lakers want to be competitive now not later. I could easily see them doing that


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Does Kevin Love put them over the top to beat the Warriors? No. It's now a feast or famine league and either you go all in or you acquire young assets.

I can't see the Lakers moving this for just Love unless they plan on getting Love + other high priced assets.
Jun 13, 2017 4:29pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:30 PM
sleeper;1858820 wrote:The question has to be answered though; Does TT help you beat the Warriors? Yes or no?
No, he sucks. He's not even average. That's on LeBron for clamoring to get his boy paid.
Jun 13, 2017 4:30pm
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Jun 13, 2017 4:31 PM
sleeper;1858819 wrote:They wouldn't. Absolutely stupid.
If it's
LA: love and shump

Cavs: butler

Chicago: #2 pick.

To me that makes a lot of sense for everyone involved. The lakers speed up there rebuild and still have the space to go get Paul George next season that could make them a contender.


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