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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jun 7, 2017 6:13am
How long will Trump serve as POTUS?
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Jun 7, 2017 6:25am
I'm curious to see if he is the Republican candidate in the next election. They're pretty much locked into this dumpster fire, right?
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Zunardo
Posts: 370
Jun 7, 2017 7:18am
What if Joe Biden had run in 2016 and gotten the nomination? I could see him getting the win by swaying enough Republicans, who would be saying, "Oh well - he's been around the block for a while, knows how to work both sides of the aisle - he probably won't do as much damage as the last guy."
Extrapolating to Trump, I could see the Donald choosing not to run in 2020 - he's already thumbed his nose at the pundits by getting elected and doesn't have anything else to prove politically. Mike Pence runs for prez, gets the nomination, and Republicans would feel better with a more "traditional" candidate to vote for.
Shoot, Pence might even pull enough crossover votes to make a difference. Democrat voters are notorious for going with the candidate based solely on how good they look in a suit and on TV, as opposed to their actual experience - and we'd have Race Bannon!
Extrapolating to Trump, I could see the Donald choosing not to run in 2020 - he's already thumbed his nose at the pundits by getting elected and doesn't have anything else to prove politically. Mike Pence runs for prez, gets the nomination, and Republicans would feel better with a more "traditional" candidate to vote for.
Shoot, Pence might even pull enough crossover votes to make a difference. Democrat voters are notorious for going with the candidate based solely on how good they look in a suit and on TV, as opposed to their actual experience - and we'd have Race Bannon!
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 7, 2017 8:13am
Joe Biden easily wins the nomination and easily defeats Trump imo.Zunardo;1857056 wrote:What if Joe Biden had run in 2016 and gotten the nomination? I could see him getting the win by swaying enough Republicans, who would be saying, "Oh well - he's been around the block for a while, knows how to work both sides of the aisle - he probably won't do as much damage as the last guy."
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Jun 7, 2017 8:37am
not a chance. THe Dem bench is empty. They cannot win by putting up a old white guylike_that;1857073 wrote:Joe Biden easily wins the nomination and easily defeats Trump imo.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jun 7, 2017 9:12am
I wouldn't' be shocked if he pulls an LBJ and taps out after one term.FatHobbit;1857053 wrote:I'm curious to see if he is the Republican candidate in the next election. They're pretty much locked into this dumpster fire, right?
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jun 7, 2017 9:28am
I voted four years and I hope he drops out after four to let the republicans have any chance of winning in 2020.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 7, 2017 9:43am
Depends on your assumptions for <2 or >2. If you assume the GOP will continue to chose party over country, then >2 years until Dems take the House in 2018. If you assume the GOP wants to be Americans first, then Trump will be gone before 2017 ends.
I'm still rooting for the GOP to grow a spine and remove him from office.
I'm still rooting for the GOP to grow a spine and remove him from office.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jun 7, 2017 9:50am
The dems aren't taking the House in 2018. Sorry.sleeper;1857090 wrote:Depends on your assumptions for <2 or >2. If you assume the GOP will continue to chose party over country, then >2 years until Dems take the House in 2018. If you assume the GOP wants to be Americans first, then Trump will be gone before 2017 ends.
I'm still rooting for the GOP to grow a spine and remove him from office.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 7, 2017 9:51am
Right.fish82;1857092 wrote:The dems aren't taking the House in 2018. Sorry.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jun 7, 2017 9:59am
Will depend on the length of the investigation and subsequent trial.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jun 7, 2017 10:28am
sleeper;1857090 wrote:I'm still rooting for the GOP to grow a spine and remove him from office.
For what, exposing the media for being biased, liberal hypocrites? Exposing BIG government for its vast intrusions and interference with business and freedom-loving individuals, and its spying and lying? Exposing the disaster that is obamaKare? Freeing job-creators from ruinous regulations and onerous taxation? Reexamining horrible trade policies? Asking our allies to 'pay their fair share' to defend freedom? Disrupting Washington D.C.?
Get in the game.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Jun 7, 2017 10:31am
Boom! Roasted!QuakerOats;1857109 wrote:For what, exposing the media for being biased, liberal hypocrites? Exposing BIG government for its vast intrusions and interference with business and freedom-loving individuals, and its spying and lying? Exposing the disaster that is obamaKare? Freeing job-creators from ruinous regulations and onerous taxation? Reexamining horrible trade policies? Asking our allies to 'pay their fair share' to defend freedom? Disrupting Washington D.C.?
Get in the game.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 7, 2017 11:14am
Seek professional medical help.QuakerOats;1857109 wrote:For what, exposing the media for being biased, liberal hypocrites? Exposing BIG government for its vast intrusions and interference with business and freedom-loving individuals, and its spying and lying? Exposing the disaster that is obamaKare? Freeing job-creators from ruinous regulations and onerous taxation? Reexamining horrible trade policies? Asking our allies to 'pay their fair share' to defend freedom? Disrupting Washington D.C.?
Get in the game.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Jun 7, 2017 11:42am
I voted for one term. He'll have proved his point and will go down in the history books as somebody other than a businessman. Then ride off into the sunset. Maybe.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jun 7, 2017 12:11pm
Yep...pretty much always.sleeper;1857095 wrote:Right.
You...not so much.
Carry on.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 7, 2017 12:31pm
Impeach him for what?sleeper;1857090 wrote:Depends on your assumptions for <2 or >2. If you assume the GOP will continue to chose party over country, then >2 years until Dems take the House in 2018.
Even batshit crazy Nancy Pelosi has said there's nothing impeachable - don't be dumber than her.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 7, 2017 12:36pm
Only in your own mind.fish82;1857147 wrote:Yep...pretty much always.
You...not so much.
Carry on.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 7, 2017 12:36pm
Obstruction of Justice.gut;1857154 wrote:Impeach him for what?
Even batshit crazy Nancy Pelosi has said there's nothing impeachable - don't be dumber than her.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 7, 2017 12:39pm
According to who? Where's the evidence?sleeper;1857158 wrote:Obstruction of Justice.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 7, 2017 12:44pm
The evidence is classified. They are building a case against Trump and his associates with Mueller and these take time. Watergate took about 2 years from occurrence to resignation. These things take time and they are not public.gut;1857161 wrote:According to who? Where's the evidence?
But continue to believe there is nothing there. Continue to ignore the smoke and pretend it's all a witch hunt while simultaneously defending the Benghazi and buttery males investigation as being REAL.
You're a partisan hack. Get good.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 7, 2017 12:47pm
Oh, that's convenient. Put another way, you got nothing.sleeper;1857162 wrote:The evidence is classified.
Washington is leaking like a sieve, yet somehow not a single bit of evidence against Trump has leaked. All the leading Dems are walking back impeachment talk.
But Sleeper knows they have super secret classified evidence that apparently no one has seen - not anyone on the Intelligence committees, not current or former NSA/FBI directors.....but believe Sleeper, the evidence is there.
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Jun 7, 2017 1:25pm
One term only. No way he gets reelected unless the dems put up a real turd of a candidate, and then it would only be "maybe".
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 7, 2017 1:29pm
Well, either there's something to actually impeach Trump with....or Dems and their propaganda media arm are going to have handed a supermajority to the Repubs.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1857172 wrote:One term only. No way he gets reelected unless the dems put up a real turd of a candidate, and then it would only be "maybe".
I don't think Trump will run for a second term. But if we have a recession in the next 4 years (extremely likely), you can virtually guarantee a Dem takes the WH. If we somehow avoid a recession, the Dems will be unlikely to take the WH.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 7, 2017 1:34pm
Explain Mueller.gut;1857165 wrote:Oh, that's convenient. Put another way, you got nothing.
Washington is leaking like a sieve, yet somehow not a single bit of evidence against Trump has leaked. All the leading Dems are walking back impeachment talk.
But Sleeper knows they have super secret classified evidence that apparently no one has seen - not anyone on the Intelligence committees, not current or former NSA/FBI directors.....but believe Sleeper, the evidence is there.