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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Apr 28, 2017 9:43am
Hail Trump!
Reality strikes the least reflective of humans.
“I loved my previous life,” Mr. Trump told Reuters. “I had so many things going. This is more work than in my previous life. I thought it would be easier.”
lhttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/28/us/politics/trump-interview-quotes.html
Reality strikes the least reflective of humans.
“I loved my previous life,” Mr. Trump told Reuters. “I had so many things going. This is more work than in my previous life. I thought it would be easier.”
lhttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/28/us/politics/trump-interview-quotes.html
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 28, 2017 9:58am
Seems pretty obvious that he underestimated the size of the mess that the previous turd (Obama) left for him to clean up.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Apr 28, 2017 11:01am
as opposed the Great Recession Bush handed Obama

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 28, 2017 11:03am
Record employment and stock market highs?BR1986FB;1850550 wrote:Seems pretty obvious that he underestimated the size of the mess that the previous turd (Obama) left for him to clean up.
Yeah I feel so bad for Trump.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 28, 2017 11:09am
North Korea? ISIS? Obamacare? Need I go on? Obama turned the other cheek (internationally) and just let these things continue to build up.sleeper;1850574 wrote:Record employment and stock market highs?
Yeah I feel so bad for Trump.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 28, 2017 11:10am
This thread won't go like any other politics thread. I can feel it!

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 28, 2017 11:14am
North Korea isn't an issue. They have always been a recluse nation that makes obnoxious claims to keep themselves in the news. Obama didn't take the bait whereas Trump is clueless on international politics or NK history and is eating it up.BR1986FB;1850575 wrote:North Korea? ISIS? Obamacare? Need I go on? Obama turned the other cheek (internationally) and just let these things continue to build up.
ISIS? Not sure that Obama left him this mess. What do propose Obama do differently to eliminate a terrorist ideology?
Obamacare? Resounding success and a massive improvement in healthcare for the people. Is it perfect? No. However, it is certainly a massive improvement over the previous system and is one of the reasons the GOP is having trouble getting support for a repeal/replace bill.
Try not to sound so ignorant and watch something other than Fox News.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 28, 2017 11:18am
Keep up that "character" you've decided to create. LOL...And yes, North Korea IS an issue and it has nothing to do with nuclear capabilities.sleeper;1850578 wrote:North Korea isn't an issue. They have always been a recluse nation that makes obnoxious claims to keep themselves in the news. Obama didn't take the bait whereas Trump is clueless on international politics or NK history and is eating it up.
ISIS? Not sure that Obama left him this mess. What do propose Obama do differently to eliminate a terrorist ideology?
Obamacare? Resounding success and a massive improvement in healthcare for the people. Is it perfect? No. However, it is certainly a massive improvement over the previous system and is one of the reasons the GOP is having trouble getting support for a repeal/replace bill.
Try not to sound so ignorant and watch something other than Fox News.
Obama CREATED the ISIS "mess." He underestimated the "JV team."
And Obamacare? "Success?" Get your head out of the sand. The program is terrible. The "Unaffordable Care Act."

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 28, 2017 11:25am
There's no character so grow up.BR1986FB;1850580 wrote:Keep up that "character" you've decided to create. LOL...And yes, North Korea IS an issue and it has nothing to do with nuclear capabilities.
Obama CREATED the ISIS "mess." He underestimated the "JV team."
And Obamacare? "Success?" Get your head out of the sand. The program is terrible. The "Unaffordable Care Act."
So Obama created ISIS/North Korea and also a program that is so bad that a GOP congress and President can't get a repeal/replace bill passed? Please. This isn't Fox News.

CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Apr 28, 2017 11:27am
Actually CNN and MSNBC have been critical/not loving how Obamacare turned out. It's not just FOX news.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 28, 2017 11:31am
Yeah, it's a character.sleeper;1850584 wrote:There's no character so grow up.
So Obama created ISIS/North Korea and also a program that is so bad that a GOP congress and President can't get a repeal/replace bill passed? Please. This isn't Fox News.
He created what ISIS is today and he let North Korea do pretty much what they wanted. Right now, I don't think that NK's nuclear capabilities are all that much to speak of but if Ol' Barry had a 3rd term, they would've been pretty substantial with his "turn the other cheek/I'm a p#ssy" philosophy...but as I said, their nuclear capabilities are the least of our worries.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 28, 2017 11:32am
Okay care to explain why Obamacare is so bad? I don't want a link, I want an explanation on why you feel Obamacare is not a great program and what you would replace it with?CenterBHSFan;1850585 wrote:Actually CNN and MSNBC have been critical/not loving how Obamacare turned out. It's not just FOX news.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 28, 2017 11:34am
Obama did not create ISIS. North Korea is not doing anything that they haven't been doing for the past 50 years since the Korean war. What do you propose we do in NK that Obama did not do?BR1986FB;1850587 wrote:Yeah, it's a character.
He created what ISIS is today and he let North Korea do pretty much what they wanted. Right now, I don't think that NK's nuclear capabilities are all that much to speak of but if Ol' Barry had a 3rd term, they would've been pretty substantial with his "turn the other cheek/I'm a p#ssy" philosophy...but as I said, their nuclear capabilities are the least of our worries.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Apr 28, 2017 11:34am
Hail Trump! a lot of people like it.CenterBHSFan;1850585 wrote:Actually CNN and MSNBC have been critical/not loving how Obamacare turned out. It's not just FOX news.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 28, 2017 11:39am
Obamacare has a 55% approval rating as of April 2017. People like it.isadore;1850591 wrote:Hail Trump! a lot of people like it.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/207671/affordable-care-act-gains-majority-approval-first-time.aspx
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 28, 2017 11:40am
He created what ISIS is today by turning the cheek so his "brothers" could flourish.sleeper;1850590 wrote:Obama did not create ISIS. North Korea is not doing anything that they haven't been doing for the past 50 years since the Korean war. What do you propose we do in NK that Obama did not do?
Really? NK is not doing anything today that they haven't been doing for the past 50 years? NK was building up their technology to be able to create weapons of mass destruction 50 years ago?
Frankly, at this point, doing "anything" would be more than the "nothing" Obama did.
Face it, Obama was a wimp. Dude let people walk all over him and had no issues with it.

CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Apr 28, 2017 11:44am
I don't think people should be increasingly fined in order to succumb to the will of some imaginary, benevolent government.
(Fined: either by taxes or by increasing premiums/payments, also over time - which by the way, we were promised would not happen.)
Employees who had their jobs cut completely or their hours trimmed down to part-time so that employers could still give medical coverage to some employees.
Small business insurers who had to close up shop.
People losing their doctors who they might have had for decades and trusted because they were lied to.
People losing their insurance that they had previously because they were lied to.
The added tax burden younger people will face, when they had no input in the matter whatsoever.
Those are my own personal gripes. It's not about being flawless. It's about being shit on a stick.
(Fined: either by taxes or by increasing premiums/payments, also over time - which by the way, we were promised would not happen.)
Employees who had their jobs cut completely or their hours trimmed down to part-time so that employers could still give medical coverage to some employees.
Small business insurers who had to close up shop.
People losing their doctors who they might have had for decades and trusted because they were lied to.
People losing their insurance that they had previously because they were lied to.
The added tax burden younger people will face, when they had no input in the matter whatsoever.
Those are my own personal gripes. It's not about being flawless. It's about being shit on a stick.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 28, 2017 11:46am
Ah, so Obama is a Muslim and he wanted ISIS to flourish so Islam can take over the world. Gotcha.BR1986FB;1850593 wrote:He created what ISIS is today by turning the cheek so his "brothers" could flourish.
Really? NK is not doing anything today that they haven't been doing for the past 50 years? NK was building up their technology to be able to create weapons of mass destruction 50 years ago?
Frankly, at this point, doing "anything" would be more than the "nothing" Obama did.
Face it, Obama was a wimp. Dude let people walk all over him and had no issues with it.
And yes, NK has been trying to create nuclear technology for the past 50 years. This isn't a new development and you blaming Obama shows your entire bias not to mention your conspiracy theory above that isn't reality.
There isn't a single policy wonk that would support unilateral intervention into NK. You don't understand the situation nor its complexities and frankly come off as Fox News brainwashed and ignorant. Sorry!

Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Apr 28, 2017 11:49am
...............................BR1986FB;1850593 wrote:He created what ISIS is today by turning the cheek so his "brothers" could flourish.
Really? NK is not doing anything today that they haven't been doing for the past 50 years? NK was building up their technology to be able to create weapons of mass destruction 50 years ago?
Frankly, at this point, doing "anything" would be more than the "nothing" Obama did.
Face it, Obama was a wimp. Dude let people walk all over him and had no issues with it.

CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Apr 28, 2017 11:49am
Obama actually did let other countries "walk all over him". That is not just an opinion, that is a fact.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 28, 2017 11:51am
"Sorry" don't watch Fox News so have no clue what you've been referring to there but keep living the "character." LOLsleeper;1850595 wrote:Ah, so Obama is a Muslim and he wanted ISIS to flourish so Islam can take over the world. Gotcha.
And yes, NK has been trying to create nuclear technology for the past 50 years. This isn't a new development and you blaming Obama shows your entire bias not to mention your conspiracy theory above that isn't reality.
There isn't a single policy wonk that would support unilateral intervention into NK. You don't understand the situation nor its complexities and frankly come off as Fox News brainwashed and ignorant. Sorry!

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 28, 2017 11:52am
I honestly don't know if I have the mental energy today to expend effort to explain to you why you are absolutely clueless on reality.CenterBHSFan;1850594 wrote:I don't think people should be increasingly fined in order to succumb to the will of some imaginary, benevolent government.
(Fined: either by taxes or by increasing premiums/payments, also over time - which by the way, we were promised would not happen.)
Employees who had their jobs cut completely or their hours trimmed down to part-time so that employers could still give medical coverage to some employees.
Small business insurers who had to close up shop.
People losing their doctors who they might have had for decades and trusted because they were lied to.
People losing their insurance that they had previously because they were lied to.
The added tax burden younger people will face, when they had no input in the matter whatsoever.
Those are my own personal gripes. It's not about being flawless. It's about being shit on a stick.
I will say this, I do agree that Obamacare has its flaws and is not perfect. The best option is Single Payer insurance like every other industrialized country in the world that produces higher quality results at a significantly lower cost. But that's "socialism" and we can't have that!
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 28, 2017 11:52am
No doubt but, watch out, you're going to be accused of being a "Fox News" follower.CenterBHSFan;1850599 wrote:Obama actually did let other countries "walk all over him". That is not just an opinion, that is a fact.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 28, 2017 11:53am
Short answer...." I have nothing."sleeper;1850602 wrote:I honestly don't know if I have the mental energy today to expend effort to explain to you why you are absolutely clueless on reality.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 28, 2017 11:53am
Those are Fox News talking points. What conservative blog did you get the "Obama is a Muslim" line from? Maybe infowars?BR1986FB;1850601 wrote:"Sorry" don't watch Fox News so have no clue what you've been referring to there but keep living the "character." LOL
And glad you finally dropped the NK comments. You are clearly not smart enough to engage in policy debate nor do you understand how the world works.