like_that;1862774 wrote:Well you have no sympathy for a dying child and you didn't have one for a human dying in a plane crash. I figured imagining a Graham wrestler in same situation would provide some clarity. Sorry it went over your head.

salto;1862809 wrote:Yup and you're a POS guido.

ppaw1999;1862840 wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-cant-let-obamacare-fail-can-help-destroy-192444325.html

So what happened to the fantastic health care plan President Trump campaigned on? The one he promised to repeal Obamacare and replace it with a much better plan everyone would absolutely love on day one of his presidency? Enough free passes. President Trump should be held accountable for his campaign promises.

ppaw1999;1862840 wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-cant-let-obamacare-fail-can-help-destroy-192444325.html

So what happened to the fantastic health care plan President Trump campaigned on? The one he promised to repeal Obamacare and replace it with a much better plan everyone would absolutely love on day one of his presidency? Enough free passes. President Trump should be held accountable for his campaign promises.

Spock;1862847 wrote:So should congress, they own it at this point. Trump already told them to get him a bill and he will sign it.....even if it is repeal and replace.

The dems are the ones that are doubling and tripling down on this. THey know Obamacare is a disaster and they are cheering and high fiving on the collapse and unwillingness to work across the isle to do something about it. The dems will pay for this in 2018 and 2020 by losing more seats.

Heretic;1862851 wrote:The Rs have a majority. Nothing the Ds do would have any meaning if they were on the same page. You can type all the bullshit rationalizations you want, but the simple truth is your party is too full of fail to do anything even when they have the advantage.

Spock;1862855 wrote:dont disagree at all. Both parties suck ass. THe R's are playing politics with the USofA. But the Dems DO OWN Obamacare and anything that happens going forward.

The whole "Trump isnt holding up his promises" argument is BS. THe Senate is at fault on this one. The only way Trump owns this is if a bill hits his desk and he doesnt sign it.

like_that;1862859 wrote:Uh, pretty sure it's the presidents job to lead both parties to work together. He is currently no different than obama, who refused to do it as well. We all know you (and many of us) called out obama for the same shit, so Trump shouldn't be getting a free pass on this either.

Heretic;1862862 wrote:
As for CC's other comment: The Ds do own Obamacare. Anything that happens going forward? No. The Ds don't own the Rs shitty attempts to half-assedly replace it and they don't own the Rs inability to work together to make anything happen. They also don't own the simple truth that the Rs had no actual plan in their minds other than "We're gonna get rid of Obamacare to show we can be proactive and shit!!!", but with no actual idea how to implement said "plan".

Spock;1862847 wrote:So should congress, they own it at this point. Trump already told them to get him a bill and he will sign it.....even if it is repeal and replace.

The dems are the ones that are doubling and tripling down on this. THey know Obamacare is a disaster and they are cheering and high fiving on the collapse and unwillingness to work across the isle to do something about it. The dems will pay for this in 2018 and 2020 by losing more seats.

Heretic;1862851 wrote:The Rs have a majority. Nothing the Ds do would have any meaning if they were on the same page. You can type all the bullshit rationalizations you want, but the simple truth is your party is too full of fail to do anything even when they have the advantage.

ppaw1999;1862911 wrote:When President Trump was running for office he made no mention of Congress. He stated he had a plan ready to go on his first day in office. Just more empty promises to get votes. Who says Trump isn't a real politician?

Spock;1862936 wrote:heard on talk radio this morning that Trump gave the reins to McConnell and he is screwing it up. Trump has been on the phone to Rand Paul every day. So if this deal gets done then Trump is doing it.

FatHobbit;1862938 wrote:This sounds like so much bull shit. Trump did say he had a plan ready to go that was going to be great. He has nothing and can't get anyone to cooperate.

superman;1862937 wrote:Politicians lie. Are you just figuring this out?

Spock;1862941 wrote:you do realize that the Pubs had 7 or 8 plans on the table a few years ago and the Dems wouldnt even talk to them or compromise. It was "pass it to see what is in it". Dont blow off that Trump didnt have anything. Of course he didnt. THe republican party did.

FatHobbit;1862938 wrote:This sounds like so much bull shit. Trump did say he had a plan ready to go that was going to be great. He has nothing and can't get anyone to cooperate.

gut;1863032 wrote:It's there, you have to dig for it. It's right there behind his "defeat ISIS in 30 days" plan.

Spock;1863040 wrote:its in the same place as Obamas shovel ready jobs

FatHobbit;1863103 wrote:Lol was it ok when Obama did it?

Heretic;1863106 wrote:That's what I love about deflectors. They'll bash something all day long when the other guys does it, but when their guy does something, they'll simply say something along the lines of "Well, he did all this, too!!!", like that's some sort of iron-tight defense. Sadly, it is not, leaving me with the hilariousness of watching the people who bitched every time someone compared Obama to Bush II doing the same thing with Trump to Obama.

like_that;1863107 wrote:Big difference between half a year vs 8.