For you truck guys and girls what do you prefer. .... Gas or Diesel?

if you could buy any truck you wanted what would you buy for your every day useage?

Anyone ever gone mudding? On my bucket list....

Gas...would buy for use as a truck and would be something used and not a "cadillac" truck

Gas, TRD Tacoma quad cab.


If diesel I'm going Ford.

If I am working out of it everyday I would buy a diesel.

mcburg93;1837350 wrote:If I am working out of it everyday I would buy a diesel.

Mcburg with the crux of the matter. I've never had a diesel, but was always told to get one if I ever needed a work truck.

Unless you're pulling an RV and sightseeing the U.S. full-time, gas is probably the way to go for the "casual" trucker.

I've had my Dakota for 12 years, put 150,000 miles on it driving to work and a few camping trips. Can't imagine what it would have been like trying to deal with a diesel engine.

Automatik;1837344 wrote:Gas, TRD Tacoma quad cab.


If diesel I'm going Ford.

Just bought a TRD Off-Road Quad Cab 4x4. Needed a mid-size to fit in my garage and the Tacoma holds it's value better than any of the competitor's. Full size I probably would have looked more at the other brands.

I own a Toyota Tundra 1794 edition. I put it through ringer driving it to some of these locations in Norther OK. but i do wash it and baby it. I'm a truck guy and comfort is a huge part of what I look for in ANY vehicle.

I would also add that I just had a GMC 5.3 V8 engine blow up on me at 97,000 miles I'm still a little salty about that.

Belly35;1837329 wrote:For you truck guys and girls what do you prefer. .... Gas or Diesel?

if you could buy any truck you wanted what would you buy for your every day useage?

Anyone ever gone mudding? On my bucket list....

If I was towing anything heavy, I'd prefer diesel. Every day usage I'd go gas. Are you wanting a standard full sized "half ton" or a heavy duty 3/4 1-ton truck?

Yes, I've gone mudding.

j_crazy;1837422 wrote:

I would also add that I just had a GMC 5.3 V8 engine blow up on me at 97,000 miles I'm still a little salty about that.

Head gasket or something more internal?

I have a diesel truck I use to pull our horse trailer. It's a pain in the ass in winter. I have to plug in the block heater if I want it to start when it's cold. I also try to let it warm up before I drive it in every season. The maintenance is more expensive. It uses 15 quarts of oil when I change the oil and every other oil change I have the fuel filters changed. (I've never done that myself because from what I understand it is messy as hell and I don't want diesel in my driveway) It does pull our trailer with ease and it's 4 wheel drive so snow is not an issue. I do like my truck but sometimes I wish I had a car or a jeep.

Working in the car business, I see way too many people who buy diesels that have no F'ing clue how they operate. Especiallly people who live in town and have no need for it work wise or for towing anything.

vdubb96;1837497 wrote:Working in the car business, I see way too many people who buy diesels that have no F'ing clue how they operate. Especiallly people who live in town and have no need for it work wise or for towing anything.

What going to happen when more of the diesel show up in the car line...

Ive owner three diesel trucks mostly for work reasons. I work in the heavy duty diesel market presently and also with J1939 product development with my own company. I would not own a diesel as my daily vehicle truck or car.
farmer, construction , oil and gas, lumber occupation diesel for the hauling, pulling and heavy weight load distance driving.

salto;1837472 wrote:Head gasket or something more internal?

Pistons, Rings, and 2 cylinders damaged. GMC dealer had their sales guy come try to sell me a new truck after i told him i wasn't going to pay to fix it. Like "bro, you seriously expect me to entertain your BS at all right now?"

j_crazy;1837660 wrote:Pistons, Rings, and 2 cylinders damaged. GMC dealer had their sales guy come try to sell me a new truck after i told him i wasn't going to pay to fix it. Like "bro, you seriously expect me to entertain your BS at all right now?"

Stock engines should not detonate like that, especially under 100k miles. Was it a work truck? A friend blew up a fairly new Silverado, hauling a camper through the mountains on I-75 few years ago.

vdubb96;1837497 wrote:Working in the car business, I see way too many people who buy diesels that have no F'ing clue how they operate. Especiallly people who live in town and have no need for it work wise or for towing anything.

I seem to remember the auto industry touting diesel passenger cars around 1979, in response to that year's gas crisis. Supposedly they were more fuel-efficient than the gas models, plus when gas prices shot up again that year, diesel stayed relatively cheap.

Nowadays, diesel is typically the same or more expensive, but I never knew anything about it getting better MPG than gas in a sedan. Anyone know more about that?

Zunardo;1837901 wrote:I seem to remember the auto industry touting diesel passenger cars around 1979, in response to that year's gas crisis. Supposedly they were more fuel-efficient than the gas models, plus when gas prices shot up again that year, diesel stayed relatively cheap.

Nowadays, diesel is typically the same or more expensive, but I never knew anything about it getting better MPG than gas in a sedan. Anyone know more about that?

Diesels usually hold their resale value longer, have more torque (power off the line) do indeed get better MPG.
Interestingly enough,diesels makeup over 50% of all vehicles sold in Europe.

Zunardo;1837901 wrote:but I never knew anything about it getting better MPG than gas in a sedan. Anyone know more about that?

I've been driving diesel trucks for years, pound for pound diesels generally do better in fuel economy. The downside of diesel is they are more expensive to maintain, cost more when purchased, and some are a bitch to start in cold weather. I've had 7.3 powerstrokes (best diesel engine Ford ever used), a 6.0 powerstroke which was the start of the reason Ford parted ways with navistar an absolute POS out of the box, a cummins, a duramax, and a vw jetta TDI. The Jetta was great 50ish mpg and ran great until my wife filled it up with gas and drove away. The 7.3 powerstrokes did decent but not great in the mpg department, my F350 I had was around 12 mpg with 410 rear end and the F450 did about 10mpg with 488 in the rear. The 6.0 powerstroke F550 was getting a terrible 7 mpg burning up 60 gallons a week when diesel prices were hovering around 5 bucks per gallon. The cummins which I bought brand new in 04 and still own is the best of all them considering fuel economy averaging 18 mixed an 20 on the highway. Then the duramax, best raw power of any of them but only gets 12 mpg.

In a nutshell for ride quality and power I would choose the duramax, for the best engine and fuel economy the cummins by a longshot, and the 7.3 F350 was the best looking truck I ever owned with a great power plant although the ride was so stiff you would shit your kidneys out. The F550 6.0 great looking truck but the $1200 dollars a month for fuel was $100 shy of double my payment. The cummins will be with me for life and my 09 duramax will be my work truck for many more years years to come.

Bio-Hazzzzard;1837908 wrote:I've been driving diesel trucks for years, pound for pound diesels generally do better in fuel economy. The downside of diesel is they are more expensive to maintain, cost more when purchased, and some are a bitch to start in cold weather. I've had 7.3 powerstrokes (best diesel engine Ford ever used), a 6.0 powerstroke which was the start of the reason Ford parted ways with navistar an absolute POS out of the box, a cummins, a duramax, and a vw jetta TDI. The Jetta was great 50ish mpg and ran great until my wife filled it up with gas and drove away. The 7.3 powerstrokes did decent but not great in the mpg department, my F350 I had was around 12 mpg with 410 rear end and the F450 did about 10mpg with 488 in the rear. The 6.0 powerstroke F550 was getting a terrible 7 mpg burning up 60 gallons a week when diesel prices were hovering around 5 bucks per gallon. The cummins which I bought brand new in 04 and still own is the best of all them considering fuel economy averaging 18 mixed an 20 on the highway. Then the duramax, best raw power of any of them but only gets 12 mpg.

In a nutshell for ride quality and power I would choose the duramax, for the best engine and fuel economy the cummins by a longshot, and the 7.3 F350 was the best looking truck I ever owned with a great power plant although the ride was so stiff you would shit your kidneys out. The F550 6.0 great looking truck but the $1200 dollars a month for fuel was $100 shy of double my payment. The cummins will be with me for life and my 09 duramax will be my work truck for many more years years to come.

very good, you know your dieseL
Ford Common 6.0L egr problem, turbo, injector does not make for quality product...

Belly35;1837914 wrote:
Ford Common 6.0L egr problem, turbo, injector does not make for quality product...

...and don't forget the studs anchoring the head shearing causing major issues.

I know several people who held on to their 6.0's because nothing was better than a Ford to them, cost them each $5000 plus to keep it on the road. Once fixed up properly they run great but huge screw up on the part of Navistar, they should have found a way to keep the 7.3 on the road when they were attacked with emission regulations.

My 6.0 has 105k on it and it's still stock. I've had to replace my ficm and I let ford do it which was very expensive but other than that no issues. (Yet)

It will be paid off next February and I may do some bullet proofing then.

Bio-Hazzzzard;1837920 wrote:...and don't forget the studs anchoring the head shearing causing major issues.

I know several people who held on to their 6.0's because nothing was better than a Ford to them, cost them each $5000 plus to keep it on the road. Once fixed up properly they run great but huge screw up on the part of Navistar, they should have found a way to keep the 7.3 on the road when they were attacked with emission regulations.

what crazy many city, county government bought the Ford 6.0 ...not good

j_crazy;1837660 wrote:Pistons, Rings, and 2 cylinders damaged. GMC dealer had their sales guy come try to sell me a new truck after i told him i wasn't going to pay to fix it. Like "bro, you seriously expect me to entertain your BS at all right now?"

babied that truck. to and from work everyday for 5 years about 10 miles per day.

I actually just bought a Nissan Titan a week and a half ago. So far I love the truck. I've owned 2 Dodge Ram 1500's before this one and always had problems. I did love my 96 Ram though. It was lifted with 35in mud tires on it. Was an absolute blast off roading in it


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