like I said earlier......Trump now looks like an adult compared to CNN and their narrative.

If you want to know why Donald Trump will go down in history as a great president, listen to (or read, when it is available) his speech in Krasinski Square, Warsaw today.
Yes, there is a lot of the usual diplomatic persiflage: “Thank you, President Duda. Thank you, Poland.” But be an adult and distinguish the gem from the setting. While the anti-Trump press was busy running stories warning about “unease in Brussels” over Trump’s visit to Poland, Trump once again totally outflanked his critics. Those who have ears, let them hear:

• The United States is absolutely committed to securing Poland’s access to alternative sources of energy. Now, to whom do you think that was addressed? What country would use access to oil and gas as political blackmail (do what we say or you can’t warm your homes, light your streets, run your factories)? Who would do such a thing?
• The United States is absolutely committed to its trans-Atlantic partnership. That partnership, said Trump in his aspirational mode, has never been stronger: suitably translated, that means that he wishes to assure that it will never be stronger. It was a proffered hand. Will the EU bureaucrats reach out and grasp it?
• Speaking of bureaucrats, Trump also—mirabile dictu—warned about “steady creep of government bureaucracy” that, left unchecked, saps a people's will and makes the flourishing of individual initiative, the very marrow of freedom, impossible. This was a direct kick against the administrative state: I like to see it. Drain the Swamp.
• Trump reaffirmed his absolute commitment to Article 5 of the NATO agreement -- the bit that pledges members to “collective defense”: an attack on one member is an attack on all. He praised Poland for stepping up to meet its statutory financial commitment to NATO and urged other European countries to do the same. A strong NATO means a strong Europe.
• Trump reaffirmed his commitment to battle against “radical Islamic terrorism” and other forms of extremism and highlighted his call in Riyadh in May for Muslim countries to step up and help quash the violence of jihad.
• He noted other challenges faced by the West, including cyber-warfare and Russia’s “destabilizing activities” in Ukraine, Syria, and Iran.
• But the best part came about three-quarters of the way through. After reminding his audience about the million people who gathered to hear John Paul II celebrate Mass in 1979, he asked: what did the people want? Answer: “We want God.” This led into the heart of Trump’s speech. The prerequisite for the success of Western civilization is not material riches. Economic prosperity and military might on their own are not sufficient. The critical leaven is the confidence in core Western values: such things as free speech, the equality of women, respect for individual rights, the rule of law, the affirmation of faith and family. Hence, the “fundamental question” facing Western nations today is whether the people continue to nurture the cultural self-confidence in those fundamental values. If they do, the West is unbeatable. If those values dissipate, the West is lost. “As long as we know our history,” Trump said, “we will know how to build our future.” Trump spent a lot of time in his speech rehearsing Poland's heroic resistance to Nazi atrocities in the Warsaw uprising and its equally heroic resistance to Soviet aggression during and after the war. Not since Ronald Reagan has an American president gone so clearly to the nub of what makes the West great and what threatens that greatness.

https://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2017/07/06/trumps-warsaw-uprising/


obviously will not get this from any of the left-stream media outlets - ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC etc.

Def a much much better speech than the last one he gave in Europe. His actual delivery is still rough to watch and listen to, but that's a minor thing.
He actually stuck to most of the speech. He finally mentioned Article V.....

The whole bashing the American media abroad was not a great move, and his remarks on North Korea were blah. But he compared to his last Europe trip, it was not a total fuck up.
Also, I listened to the speech on the way into work today via XM radio on CNN and MSNBC who played the speech live. The speech and video is also on the main page of the Post... so yeah, the media covered it. It kind of was a major speech from the President of the United States, so of course they were going to carry it.

ptown_trojans_1;1861555 wrote:Def a much much better speech than the last one he gave in Europe. His actual delivery is still rough to watch and listen to, but that's a minor thing.
He actually stuck to most of the speech. He finally mentioned Article V.....

The whole bashing the American media abroad was not a great move, and his remarks on North Korea were blah. But he compared to his last Europe trip, it was not a total fuck up.
Also, I listened to the speech on the way into work today via XM radio on CNN and MSNBC who played the speech live. The speech and video is also on the main page of the Post... so yeah, the media covered it. It kind of was a major speech from the President of the United States, so of course they were going to carry it.

Funny to me that you care more about the president bashing the media than you do about the ex-president bashing the current president last week.

superman;1861557 wrote:Funny to me that you care more about the president bashing the media than you do about the ex-president bashing the current president last week.

I care about the current President of the United States bashing the American media abroad. The President should be highlighting the power of the free press, not belittling it. Whatever beef he has with CNN, leave it here. That is beneath the office of the President.
If Obama went after Trump personally last week, that is wrong as well.

superman;1861557 wrote:Funny to me that you care more about the president bashing the media than you do about the ex-president bashing the current president last week.

Ptown is smart, but struggles to be intellectually honest with himself.

I was listening to MSNBC this morning on my way to work. They both (Mika and Joe) actually had the nerve to whine about how Trump brings up Obama. Like Obama never ever ever brought up Bush.
Oh well, at least they're still better than CNN at this point...

ptown_trojans_1;1861558 wrote: If Obama went after Trump

If? C'mon man.

like_that;1861559 wrote:Ptown is smart, but struggles to be intellectually honest with himself.

Thanks...I guess?

CenterBHSFan;1861560 wrote:I was listening to MSNBC this morning on my way to work. They both (Mika and Joe) actually had the nerve to whine about how Trump brings up Obama. Like Obama never ever ever brought up Bush.
Oh well, at least they're still better than CNN at this point...

If I remember right, Joe went after Obama back in the day for doing the same, going after Bush....

superman;1861563 wrote:If? C'mon man.

Enlighten me. What exactly did he say?
I know the former Presidents have normally stayed out of the fray. Other than the recent remarks about the healthcare law, I haven't seen any direct remarks about Trump.

ptown_trojans_1;1861565 wrote:Thanks...I guess?


If I remember right, Joe went after Obama back in the day for doing the same, going after Bush....


Enlighten me. What exactly did he say?
I know the former Presidents have normally stayed out of the fray. Other than the recent remarks about the healthcare law, I haven't seen any direct remarks about Trump.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/07/03/politics/obama-korea-speech-trump/index.html

superman;1861569 wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/07/03/politics/obama-korea-speech-trump/index.html

Yeah..the line about, "even with the temporary absence of US leadership" is not a good one and he should not have made it.
I'm one to think former Presidents should stay out of the spotlight on specific political items.

ptown_trojans_1;1861558 wrote:I care about the current President of the United States bashing the American media abroad. The President should be highlighting the power of the free press, not belittling it. Whatever beef he has with CNN, leave it here. That is beneath the office of the President.
If Obama went after Trump personally last week, that is wrong as well.

even if it is fake and sends the incorrect message to the world than what is actually happening? I guess the world should of just listened to Hitlers media and propaganda machine......No he should show the world that free press is outweighed by free speech by anyone and everyone.

Morning Joe crew spent yet another entire broadcast today bashing the president; not even one tiny ounce of balance; they are completely worthless and irrelevant at this point.

QuakerOats;1861580 wrote:Morning Joe crew spent yet another entire broadcast today bashing the president; not even one tiny ounce of balance; they are completely worthless and irrelevant at this point.

gosh a ruddies, since you cann't handle the truth, just watch Fox & Friends. They will tell you what you want to hear.

isadore;1861585 wrote:gosh a ruddies, since you cann't handle the truth, just watch Fox & Friends. They will tell you what you want to hear.

You do realize that not one of these 'news' networks are actually new networks? That goes for CNN, Fox, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc........

They quit being news networks when they put either a liberal or conservative slant (AKA opinion) in their reporting and analysis. Now they are nothing more than 'Entertainment Tonight', 'E-News' and shows of that ilk.

Unfortunately, there are no longer unbiased news sources out there available to the general, voting public.......

isadore;1861585 wrote:gosh a ruddies, since you cann't handle the truth, just watch Fox & Friends. They will tell you what you want to hear.

I can handle the truth; I would just like to see it once in a while.

wkfan;1861586 wrote:You do realize that not one of these 'news' networks are actually new networks? That goes for CNN, Fox, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc........

They quit being news networks when they put either a liberal or conservative slant (AKA opinion) in their reporting and analysis. Now they are nothing more than 'Entertainment Tonight', 'E-News' and shows of that ilk.

Unfortunately, there are no longer unbiased news sources out there available to the general, voting public.......

Yep once news became part of for profit broadcasting it's about working up a reliable base, and repeatedly telling them what they want to hear. This way you've got reliable ratings and can charge more for advertising. No real unbiased news will happen until that goes away. Real bias-free un-sensationalized news is boring and requires thinking. Tell me what I want to hear and do it with flashy lights and graphics.

wkfan;1861586 wrote:You do realize that not one of these 'news' networks are actually new networks? That goes for CNN, Fox, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc........

They quit being news networks when they put either a liberal or conservative slant (AKA opinion) in their reporting and analysis. Now they are nothing more than 'Entertainment Tonight', 'E-News' and shows of that ilk.

Unfortunately, there are no longer unbiased news sources out there available to the general, voting public.......

Stop making sense. It's not allowed here. That's why this site cracks me up so much, each side cries about the other then backs up their claim with a biased source. I disregard posts like that immediately.

Not sure if this was posted....if it was, idgaf.

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Or... We can watch as he defiles the constitution, makes a mockery of the citizenry, and profits from illegal promotion of his companies.

No doubt. We will not forget this asshole.

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ptown_trojans_1;1861558 wrote:The President should be highlighting the power of the free press, not belittling it... That is beneath the office of the President.

Well. Let's take a look at Thomas Jefferson. Huge proponent of a free press. Probably nobody else at that time was as big on a free press as he was. But, he also had his beef with opinion-swayed press and wasn't afraid to point it out. That, in my opinion, is how it should be - and it shouldn't matter what position any person is in.

ptown_trojans_1;1861565 wrote:If I remember right, Joe went after Obama back in the day for doing the same, going after Bush....

I honestly don't know. I'm rather new to the MSNBC thing, BUT, I have a feeling that I won't be for long. The hypocrisy at that outlet is just as strong as it could be. For now, they're still better than CNN but they really do need to straighten up.

wkfan;1861586 wrote:You do realize that not one of these 'news' networks are actually new networks? That goes for CNN, Fox, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc........

They quit being news networks when they put either a liberal or conservative slant (AKA opinion) in their reporting and analysis. Now they are nothing more than 'Entertainment Tonight', 'E-News' and shows of that ilk.

Unfortunately, there are no longer unbiased news sources out there available to the general, voting public.......

NPR offers straight news, insightful stories (e.g. Marketplace series on Erie County, PA switching to Trump is great) with insightful commentary from all sides and the reporters press the commentators fairly and persistently.

I've been enjoying NPR Up First since it started. It's a bit dry, but to the point. IIRC public radio is generally frowned upon here so this will most likely be chalked up as FAKE NEWZ.

BoatShoes;1861627 wrote:NPR offers straight news, insightful stories (e.g. Marketplace series on Erie County, PA switching to Trump is great) with insightful commentary from all sides and the reporters press the commentators fairly and persistently.

They may do a few things well, but definitely a liberal slant and easy to pick up on that.

Fucking hilarious. You're one of, if not, the worst offender for posting garbage news sources.