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Jan 16, 2017 12:39 PM
QuakerOats;1833058 wrote:I have that trademarked from about 7 years ago
And it's probably just as accurate now as it was then: over-the-top hyperbole said by a person with nothing other than over-the-top hyperbole to fall back upon.
Jan 16, 2017 12:39pm
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Jan 16, 2017 5:00 PM
sleeper;1833047 wrote:Hail Trump!
Going to the inauguration?
Jan 16, 2017 5:00pm
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Jan 16, 2017 5:52 PM
QuakerOats;1833113 wrote:Going to the inauguration?
No.
Jan 16, 2017 5:52pm
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Jan 16, 2017 8:48 PM
I like the fact that trump is not going to rely on the major press in this country. CNN, cbs, ABC etc... Are all fake news. He will be using bloggers and Twitter.
Jan 16, 2017 8:48pm
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Jan 16, 2017 9:50 PM
Spock;1833133 wrote:I like the fact that trump is not going to rely on the major press in this country. CNN, cbs, ABC etc... Are all fake news. He will be using bloggers and Twitter.
That is LITERALLY the worst thing about Trump....so far. That is a horrible turn for this country with respect to transparency from the POTUS and a free & independent press. He's basically proposing to use Twitter to disseminate his state-run propaganda.
Jan 16, 2017 9:50pm
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Jan 16, 2017 10:37 PM
GM to invest another billion into US manufacturing.


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Jan 16, 2017 10:37pm
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Jan 16, 2017 11:12 PM
bases_loaded;1833149 wrote:GM to invest another billion into US manufacturing.
Did Obama take credit for that yet?
Jan 16, 2017 11:12pm
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Jan 17, 2017 1:16 AM
gut;1833146 wrote:That is LITERALLY the worst thing about Trump....so far. That is a horrible turn for this country with respect to transparency from the POTUS and a free & independent press. He's basically proposing to use Twitter to disseminate his state-run propaganda.
So the POTUS is going to use new media outlets to push state run propaganda outside of what we are accustomed to in the formal press briefings by the propaganda minister himself AKA the press secretary. You can not be more transparent than the POTUS's words himself. Count me in that Twitter rants are beneath the office. Trump has used them throughout the campaign and the free and independent press has ripped him over them yet he is the POTUS elect.
Jan 17, 2017 1:16am
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Jan 17, 2017 5:28 AM
gut;1833150 wrote:Did Obama take credit for that yet?
He's too busy saturating bridges with lighter fluid. His minions will make sure he gets credit for everything good the next 7 1/2 years.
Jan 17, 2017 5:28am
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Jan 17, 2017 7:14 AM
bases_loaded;1833149 wrote:GM to invest another billion into US manufacturing.


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Hopefully it helps them stop building such shitty vehicles.
Jan 17, 2017 7:14am
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Jan 17, 2017 10:26 AM
Propaganda? Or maybe the untwisted truth. The main stream media is literally fake news. They put the anti right slant on everything.

Why let them put words in your mouth? Trump can bypass the media to get potus info out there. It can't be worse then colluding with the media like Obama did
Jan 17, 2017 10:26am
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Jan 17, 2017 10:44 AM
gut;1833146 wrote:That is LITERALLY the worst thing about Trump....so far. That is a horrible turn for this country with respect to transparency from the POTUS and a free & independent press. He's basically proposing to use Twitter to disseminate his state-run propaganda.
"...free & independent..." so long as they report what they want to report, and with a liberal slant

The press abdicated their responsibility years ago; it will take a lot of rehabilitation to win back their objectivity and role of being the watchdog of (BIG) government.
Jan 17, 2017 10:44am
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Jan 17, 2017 10:50 AM
QuakerOats;1833175 wrote:"...free & independent..." so long as they report what they want to report, and with a liberal slant

The press abdicated their responsibility years ago; it will take a lot of rehabilitation to win back their objectivity and role of being the watchdog of (BIG) government.
There we agree. Still, I'm a little concerned about an attack on the freedom of the press.
Soooo that will do nothing.
DOD will increase and the cuts are not part of the mandatory spending. That means you are only cutting at the margins and really less than 5% of the annual budget.Also this would largely by the FY19 budget as the FY18 is largely written already.
Cool story bro.

If you are really serious about shrinking Government, talk to me when DOD and all the entitlements are on the table.
Jan 17, 2017 10:50am
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Jan 17, 2017 11:17 AM
bases_loaded;1833149 wrote:GM to invest another billion into US manufacturing.


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This is in addition to the $2.9B investment they made last year, which you ignored entirely because it doesn't fit your bubble view of reality.
Jan 17, 2017 11:17am
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Jan 17, 2017 11:41 AM
sleeper;1833182 wrote:This is in addition to the $2.9B investment they made last year, which you ignored entirely because it doesn't fit your bubble view of reality.
Jan 17, 2017 11:41am
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Jan 17, 2017 11:51 AM
ptown_trojans_1;1833177 wrote:There we agree. Still, I'm a little concerned about an attack on the freedom of the press.


If you are really serious about shrinking Government, talk to me when DOD and all the entitlements are on the table.

No one is attacking the freedom of the press; many are attacking the press' radical liberal bias.



And yes, entitlements should be on the table, along with everything else, including the sale of federal assets to pay down the national debt.
Jan 17, 2017 11:51am
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Jan 17, 2017 11:55 AM
QuakerOats;1833188 wrote:No one is attacking the freedom of the press; many are attacking the press' radical liberal bias.



And yes, entitlements should be on the table, along with everything else, including the sale of federal assets to pay down the national debt.
Yet. No one is attacking them yet. Given his rhetoric, I could see that changing.

Well, Trump does not agree that entitlements should be on the table and the Rs in Congress disagree on selling federal land, especially old and under used DOD lands.
So, I don't expand any real changes at all on that front.
Jan 17, 2017 11:55am
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Jan 17, 2017 11:56 AM
Further, regarding federal spending; in the 4 years before the financial crisis we spent $2.7 trillion annually. In '09 we decided to spend an extra $800 billion on TARP etc.... as a one-time outlay to 'help the economy'. However, this extra $800 billion never went away, and in the 6 years following the crisis we have spent $3.5 trillion annually on average.

Can anyone please tell me where that extra $800 billion is going, every year, year after year? That is a massive 30% increase in spending that never went away ---- what the hell!!!
Jan 17, 2017 11:56am
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Jan 17, 2017 12:15 PM
gut;1833146 wrote:That is LITERALLY the worst thing about Trump....so far. That is a horrible turn for this country with respect to transparency from the POTUS and a free & independent press. He's basically proposing to use Twitter to disseminate his state-run propaganda.
For me, the issue is more that he simply uses Twitter like a middle-school girl who just got told all her "friends" laugh at her behind her back, where it's less of a buffer to prevent his ideas from being twisted by media and more a pulpit where he can yell at anyone he doesn't like because he's too thin-skinned to be able to handle any criticism and too concerned about looking "tough" to let anything slide. It'd be a lot easier for me to consistently stay in "wait and see; might not be that bad" mode if he could simply act like an actual professional with any sort of consistency, as opposed to the premise for a WACKY THURSDAY NIGHT SITCOM.
Jan 17, 2017 12:15pm
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Jan 17, 2017 12:15 PM
QuakerOats;1833191 wrote:Further, regarding federal spending; in the 4 years before the financial crisis we spent $2.7 trillion annually. In '09 we decided to spend an extra $800 billion on TARP etc.... as a one-time outlay to 'help the economy'. However, this extra $800 billion never went away, and in the 6 years following the crisis we have spent $3.5 trillion annually on average.

Can anyone please tell me where that extra $800 billion is going, every year, year after year? That is a massive 30% increase in spending that never went away ---- what the hell!!!
Quick Google search
https://www.treasury.gov/initiatives/financial-stability/reports/pages/default.aspx
Jan 17, 2017 12:15pm
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Jan 17, 2017 12:50 PM
bases_loaded;1833185 wrote:
So no acknowledgement of the nearly triple investment from GM during Obama's Presidency?

Your bias is showing.
Jan 17, 2017 12:50pm
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Jan 17, 2017 12:54 PM
QuakerOats;1833191 wrote:Further, regarding federal spending; in the 4 years before the financial crisis we spent $2.7 trillion annually. In '09 we decided to spend an extra $800 billion on TARP etc.... as a one-time outlay to 'help the economy'. However, this extra $800 billion never went away, and in the 6 years following the crisis we have spent $3.5 trillion annually on average.

Can anyone please tell me where that extra $800 billion is going, every year, year after year? That is a massive 30% increase in spending that never went away ---- what the hell!!!
Donald Trump's spending plan is an extra $5.3 trillion over the next 10 years. You voted for BIG GOVERNMENT.

Own it.
Jan 17, 2017 12:54pm
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Jan 17, 2017 1:25 PM
I didn't vote for him but I'd be happy to own it s long as the increased spending is for military and defense purposes.
Jan 17, 2017 1:25pm