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Joe Daugherty
Posts: 243
Jan 6, 2010 12:28pm
What do you guys think?
#1 = Most difficult/best competition
In Ohio for 2010 Entire Folkstyle season.
Folkstyle
High School
# 1 = Ironman
# 2 = Brecksville
# 3 = OHSAA State Tournament
Jr. High
# 1 = TOC
# 2 = OAC State tournament
# 3 = Philo Electric
Grade School
# 1 = TOC
# 2 = OAC States
# 3 = Ourway States
Not looking to get beat up here! Just looking for opinions!
#1 = Most difficult/best competition
In Ohio for 2010 Entire Folkstyle season.
Folkstyle
High School
# 1 = Ironman
# 2 = Brecksville
# 3 = OHSAA State Tournament
Jr. High
# 1 = TOC
# 2 = OAC State tournament
# 3 = Philo Electric
Grade School
# 1 = TOC
# 2 = OAC States
# 3 = Ourway States
Not looking to get beat up here! Just looking for opinions!
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oldschoollion123
Posts: 90
Jan 7, 2010 10:15am
In Season High School in Ohio
1.Ironman
2. Brecksville
3.Top Gun
4. Medina
5. GMVWA
1.Ironman
2. Brecksville
3.Top Gun
4. Medina
5. GMVWA
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Joe Daugherty
Posts: 243
Jan 7, 2010 10:18am
I guess thinking about it any really good invitational tournament would have great wrestlers from all 3 divisions! Good call , Old School !oldschoollion123 wrote: In Season High School in Ohio
1.Ironman
2. Brecksville
3.Top Gun
4. Medina
5. GMVWA
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Joe Daugherty
Posts: 243
Jan 7, 2010 10:20am
Are all of these tourneys Ohio tournaments? ie. GMVWA?oldschoollion123 wrote: In Season High School in Ohio
1.Ironman
2. Brecksville
3.Top Gun
4. Medina
5. GMVWA
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Cthelites
Posts: 1,951
Jan 7, 2010 10:32am
Middle School in season:
Philo
CIT
Olentangy Liberty
As far as HS, has Top Gun overtaken Medina?
Philo
CIT
Olentangy Liberty
As far as HS, has Top Gun overtaken Medina?
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Joe Daugherty
Posts: 243
Jan 7, 2010 10:41am
Here is the hard part! As far as Top Gun VS. Medina goes, I would imagine that certain weight classes are harder than others at either tournament. How do we decide what tournament is harder? We could look at a global list of criteria like , 1) What Teams are invited to each tournament and how they placed the prior year?Cthelites wrote: Middle School in season:
Philo
CIT
Olentangy Liberty
As far as HS, has Top Gun overtaken Medina?
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oldschoollion123
Posts: 90
Jan 7, 2010 10:55am
Yes all these tournaments are in Ohio. The GMVWA is mostly Southwest Schools some from the Toledo area, and the top teams from Kentucky there are 48 teams in the tournament. Graham attends.Joe Daugherty wrote:Are all of these tourneys Ohio tournaments? ie. GMVWA?oldschoollion123 wrote: In Season High School in Ohio
1.Ironman
2. Brecksville
3.Top Gun
4. Medina
5. GMVWA
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Joe Daugherty
Posts: 243
Jan 7, 2010 11:03am
We should do a poll !
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irishball25
Posts: 138
Jan 7, 2010 1:55pm
I'm a big fan of the Top Gun Tounrnament
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arrow1991
Posts: 30
Jan 7, 2010 6:13pm
Ironman
Brecksville
Top Gun
Medina(with the last three in any order!
I dont think gmvwa is all that compared to the others! Graham doesnt attend...They run away with the tournament every year! Nothing bad towards Graham..just dont think its as tough as the other Four listed in my opinion!
Brecksville
Top Gun
Medina(with the last three in any order!
I dont think gmvwa is all that compared to the others! Graham doesnt attend...They run away with the tournament every year! Nothing bad towards Graham..just dont think its as tough as the other Four listed in my opinion!
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me1
Posts: 8
Jan 8, 2010 7:25am
Akron Firestone and OVAC are often overlooked since they are the same time as Top Gun.
Not the level of Medina or Top Gun, but equal to GMVWA
Not the level of Medina or Top Gun, but equal to GMVWA
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oldschoollion123
Posts: 90
Jan 8, 2010 7:37am
arrow1991 wrote: Ironman
Brecksville
Top Gun
Medina(with the last three in any order!
I dont think gmvwa is all that compared to the others! Graham doesnt attend...They run away with the tournament every year! Nothing bad towards Graham..just dont think its as tough as the other Four listed in my opinion!
No the GMVWA is not on the level of the top 3. Medina is still tough, but I don't think it is even on the level of Top Gun. I would list the GMVWA as a top 10 tournament there are more teams than just Graham attending. It is very similiar to the OVAC.
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Joe Daugherty
Posts: 243
Jan 8, 2010 8:37am
Ok , I'm gonna do a poll but I need one more tuff tourney to add to the poll.
Here is what I have so far. Not in order of anything. I will do a poll for the JR High and Grade school as well, after I see how this one turns out.
Top Gun
Ironman
Brecksville
Medina
OVAC
KIT
GMVWA
Akron Firestone
OHSAA State Tournament
Here is what I have so far. Not in order of anything. I will do a poll for the JR High and Grade school as well, after I see how this one turns out.
Top Gun
Ironman
Brecksville
Medina
OVAC
KIT
GMVWA
Akron Firestone
OHSAA State Tournament
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Varsityfan32
Posts: 97
Jan 8, 2010 8:48am
Graham should give up GMVWA and attend one of the 3 brecksville medina or top gun that would make for some really exciting tournaments
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Joe Daugherty
Posts: 243
Jan 8, 2010 8:48am
+1 !!!!Varsityfan32 wrote: Graham should give up GMVWA and attend one of the 3 brecksville medina or top gun that would make for some really exciting tournaments
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oldschoollion123
Posts: 90
Jan 8, 2010 8:53am
Graham already attends Top Gun, the GMVWA gives them a chance to see most of the teams from the Southwest District. Yes they are the dominate team in the area but it always helps to know your competition. So I don't see them leaving the G. I think they used to attend Brecksville and left a couple of years ago to get into the G.Varsityfan32 wrote: Graham should give up GMVWA and attend one of the 3 brecksville medina or top gun that would make for some really exciting tournaments
The GMVWA has some good wrestling this year I watched a 7th grader from Ryle Kentucky beat alot of Ohio's best at 119 . He lost in the finals 14-4 to returning State Champ Nick Brescetta from Graham. He is a legit 12 years old has not been held back the kid is very tough.He has also beat a few kids that placed at Brecksville this year 1 that comes to mind is Ward from Goshen.
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Joe Daugherty
Posts: 243
Jan 8, 2010 8:55am
Would that 7th Grader be Mark H. Formerly from Michigan?oldschoollion123 wrote:Graham already attends Top Gun, the GMVWA gives them a chance to see most of the teams from the Southwest District. Yes they are the dominate team in the area but it always helps to know your competition. So I don't see them leaving the G. I think they used to attend Brecksville and left a couple of years ago to get into the G.Varsityfan32 wrote: Graham should give up GMVWA and attend one of the 3 brecksville medina or top gun that would make for some really exciting tournaments
The GMVWA has some good wrestling this year I watched a 7th grader from Ryle Kentucky beat alot of Ohio's best at 119 . He lost in the finals 14-4 to returning State Champ Nick Brescetta from Graham. He is a legit 12 years old has not been held back the kid is very tough.He has also beat a few kids that placed at Brecksville this year 1 that comes to mind is Ward from Goshen.
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oldschoollion123
Posts: 90
Jan 8, 2010 9:03am
Yes the wrestler is Mark Hall is a beast! By the time this kid gets to H.S. if he sticks with it he should be a four time state champ.Joe Daugherty wrote:Would that 7th Grader be Mark H. Formerly from Michigan?oldschoollion123 wrote:Graham already attends Top Gun, the GMVWA gives them a chance to see most of the teams from the Southwest District. Yes they are the dominate team in the area but it always helps to know your competition. So I don't see them leaving the G. I think they used to attend Brecksville and left a couple of years ago to get into the G.Varsityfan32 wrote: Graham should give up GMVWA and attend one of the 3 brecksville medina or top gun that would make for some really exciting tournaments
The GMVWA has some good wrestling this year I watched a 7th grader from Ryle Kentucky beat alot of Ohio's best at 119 . He lost in the finals 14-4 to returning State Champ Nick Brescetta from Graham. He is a legit 12 years old has not been held back the kid is very tough.He has also beat a few kids that placed at Brecksville this year 1 that comes to mind is Ward from Goshen.
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Joe Daugherty
Posts: 243
Jan 8, 2010 9:18am
Beg to differ here! 6 X State champ ! That's why they moved to Kentucky ! For real! My son and Mark go to a ton of camps together at BTW in Milan Ohio and I have spoken to his father a few times. They are very focused on being the best. If you look this kid up on the world of wrestling site he has already won a ton of Major tourneys. Here is what is awesome about him and his dad. They really have a great attitude about wrestling! The kid is always laughing and having a great time. His dad really does not pressure him all that much ! I wouldn't doubt that Mark made the decision to move to Kentucky and his dad is just trying to give his kid the best opportunity to be the best. Expect him to move back to Michigan his freshman year. Great Kid and Even better Dad !oldschoollion123 wrote:Yes the wrestler is Mark Hall is a beast! By the time this kid gets to H.S. if he sticks with it he should be a four time state champ.Joe Daugherty wrote:Would that 7th Grader be Mark H. Formerly from Michigan?oldschoollion123 wrote:Graham already attends Top Gun, the GMVWA gives them a chance to see most of the teams from the Southwest District. Yes they are the dominate team in the area but it always helps to know your competition. So I don't see them leaving the G. I think they used to attend Brecksville and left a couple of years ago to get into the G.Varsityfan32 wrote: Graham should give up GMVWA and attend one of the 3 brecksville medina or top gun that would make for some really exciting tournaments
The GMVWA has some good wrestling this year I watched a 7th grader from Ryle Kentucky beat alot of Ohio's best at 119 . He lost in the finals 14-4 to returning State Champ Nick Brescetta from Graham. He is a legit 12 years old has not been held back the kid is very tough.He has also beat a few kids that placed at Brecksville this year 1 that comes to mind is Ward from Goshen.
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oldschoollion123
Posts: 90
Jan 8, 2010 9:21am
Your Right 6timer souds alot better! Especially since he should win it 2 times in Kentucky. Will he move back to Michigan for sure, or could he end up in Ohio Some Where? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!Joe Daugherty wrote:Beg to differ here! 6 X State champ ! That's why they moved to Kentucky ! For real! My son and Mark go to a ton of camps together at BTW in Milan Ohio and I have spoken to his father a few times. They are very focused on being the best. If you look this kid up on the world of wrestling site he has already won a ton of Major tourneys. Here is what is awesome about him and his dad. They really have a great attitude about wrestling! The kid is always laughing and having a great time. His dad really does not pressure him all that much ! I wouldn't doubt that Mark made the decision to move to Kentucky and his dad is just trying to give his kid the best opportunity to be the best. Expect him to move back to Michigan his freshman year. Great Kid and Even better Dad !oldschoollion123 wrote:Yes the wrestler is Mark Hall is a beast! By the time this kid gets to H.S. if he sticks with it he should be a four time state champ.Joe Daugherty wrote:Would that 7th Grader be Mark H. Formerly from Michigan?oldschoollion123 wrote:Graham already attends Top Gun, the GMVWA gives them a chance to see most of the teams from the Southwest District. Yes they are the dominate team in the area but it always helps to know your competition. So I don't see them leaving the G. I think they used to attend Brecksville and left a couple of years ago to get into the G.Varsityfan32 wrote: Graham should give up GMVWA and attend one of the 3 brecksville medina or top gun that would make for some really exciting tournaments
The GMVWA has some good wrestling this year I watched a 7th grader from Ryle Kentucky beat alot of Ohio's best at 119 . He lost in the finals 14-4 to returning State Champ Nick Brescetta from Graham. He is a legit 12 years old has not been held back the kid is very tough.He has also beat a few kids that placed at Brecksville this year 1 that comes to mind is Ward from Goshen.
Really though he is a very tough kid how did your son do against him.
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Varsityfan32
Posts: 97
Jan 8, 2010 9:24am
wouldnt mind seeing that kid wrestling in ohio !!!
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Joe Daugherty
Posts: 243
Jan 8, 2010 9:27am
I'm sorry , My son is 12 years old and 77 lbs. Mark and my son and a few others just attend the same camps and play together! There is no comparison to Mark and my son ! The kid is a freak of nature. Meant in a good way. I would love to see him come to Ohio! Personally I would like to see him wrestle for Burney ! But in all reality I would think he would go to Gram. Or maybe Blair???? Time will tell.oldschoollion123 wrote:Your Right 6timer souds alot better! Especially since he should win it 2 times in Kentucky. Will he move back to Michigan for sure, or could he end up in Ohio Some Where? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!Joe Daugherty wrote:Beg to differ here! 6 X State champ ! That's why they moved to Kentucky ! For real! My son and Mark go to a ton of camps together at BTW in Milan Ohio and I have spoken to his father a few times. They are very focused on being the best. If you look this kid up on the world of wrestling site he has already won a ton of Major tourneys. Here is what is awesome about him and his dad. They really have a great attitude about wrestling! The kid is always laughing and having a great time. His dad really does not pressure him all that much ! I wouldn't doubt that Mark made the decision to move to Kentucky and his dad is just trying to give his kid the best opportunity to be the best. Expect him to move back to Michigan his freshman year. Great Kid and Even better Dad !oldschoollion123 wrote:Yes the wrestler is Mark Hall is a beast! By the time this kid gets to H.S. if he sticks with it he should be a four time state champ.Joe Daugherty wrote:Would that 7th Grader be Mark H. Formerly from Michigan?oldschoollion123 wrote:Graham already attends Top Gun, the GMVWA gives them a chance to see most of the teams from the Southwest District. Yes they are the dominate team in the area but it always helps to know your competition. So I don't see them leaving the G. I think they used to attend Brecksville and left a couple of years ago to get into the G.Varsityfan32 wrote: Graham should give up GMVWA and attend one of the 3 brecksville medina or top gun that would make for some really exciting tournaments
The GMVWA has some good wrestling this year I watched a 7th grader from Ryle Kentucky beat alot of Ohio's best at 119 . He lost in the finals 14-4 to returning State Champ Nick Brescetta from Graham. He is a legit 12 years old has not been held back the kid is very tough.He has also beat a few kids that placed at Brecksville this year 1 that comes to mind is Ward from Goshen.
Really though he is a very tough kid how did your son do against him.
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Joe Daugherty
Posts: 243
Jan 8, 2010 9:32am
Still looking for that 10th tuff tourney in Ohio for a poll! Sorry just realized that we went off on a nice tangent !
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oldschoollion123
Posts: 90
Jan 8, 2010 10:02am
1.Ironman
2.Brecksville
3.Top Gun
4.Medina
5.GMVWA
6. Catholic Invitational (CIT)
7.SWOCA
8. Lima Div.3 Classic
9.Solon Classic
10. OVAC, Sandusky St. Mary Dual Tournament
There is my top 10
2.Brecksville
3.Top Gun
4.Medina
5.GMVWA
6. Catholic Invitational (CIT)
7.SWOCA
8. Lima Div.3 Classic
9.Solon Classic
10. OVAC, Sandusky St. Mary Dual Tournament
There is my top 10