Maybe Osweiler is worse, I'll concede there. Fitzpatrick has a higher QBR and had a 6 INT game. You're telling me if you have to win a game with average talent around them everywhere, you take Siemian over Fitzpatrick? Please. Imagine if Siemian had the Jets D behind him?

Getting cute with Siemian might cost Denver a playoff spot. If their D was so good, they probably should've spent their money they paid C.J. Anderson, kept D intact and just started Lynch from day one.

Kessler rates higher than Siemian this year in both QB rating and QBR and he's got one of the shittiest offensive lines and no defense.

Buffalo should break Sherman's leg for that..

Can't stand Richard Sherman. Don't give a shit that he's apparently really smart and went to Stanford, he gets away with more shit on a football field than anyone else in the NFL.

Terry_Tate;1816118 wrote:Sherman gets away with so much contact it's laughable. He's a very good CB obviously, but he gets away with more than any other corner I've watched. No surprise he got away with that PI.

From three weeks ago, lol. No surprise he got away with that foul.

And the NFL wonders why their prime time games are down. That officiating was such garbage to end the half. I'm done with that game. Officials and rules are really threatening the NFL. When teams are winning with penalties and bad officiating more than good play (as it's been trending) the product is going to suffer and over time people will leave.

I mean, not calling a late hit is bad enough, to then stand over the ball not allowing a snap to happen until 4 seconds on play clock...and call a delay of game is just another kind of awful. Otherworldly bad.

That last sequence seems like something that would only happen to the Browns

Azubuike24;1822483 wrote:Maybe Osweiler is worse, I'll concede there. Fitzpatrick has a higher QBR and had a 6 INT game. You're telling me if you have to win a game with average talent around them everywhere, you take Siemian over Fitzpatrick? Please. Imagine if Siemian had the Jets D behind him?

He doesn't have a higher QBR? Siemian is at 54 and Fitzpatrick is at 43. Not to mention Siemian beating him in pretty much every other category and is nine years younger.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/2511109/trevor-siemian

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/8664

Fitz also had a six interception game, like you said. He's played a huge role in this disappointing season for the Jets. Most fans are ready for Petty to take over because the season's gone.

Sick of hearing Cam Newton's whining.

friendfromlowry;1822506 wrote:He doesn't have a higher QBR? Siemian is at 54 and Fitzpatrick is at 43. Not to mention Siemian beating him in pretty much every other category and is nine years younger.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/2511109/trevor-siemian

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/8664

Fitz also had a six interception game, like you said. He's played a huge role in this disappointing season for the Jets. Most fans are ready for Petty to take over because the season's gone.

Thank you. Was just getting ready to post this lol I knew fitz having a higher QBR than Siemian didn't sound right lol.

Also buike, no one is saying Siemian is a great QB. You said he's the worst starting QB in the NFL which is, again, another one of your extreme comments that just isn't corrext.

Laley23;1822504 wrote:And the NFL wonders why their prime time games are down. That officiating was such garbage to end the half. I'm done with that game. Officials and rules are really threatening the NFL. When teams are winning with penalties and bad officiating more than good play (as it's been trending) the product is going to suffer and over time people will leave.

I mean, not calling a late hit is bad enough, to then stand over the ball not allowing a snap to happen until 4 seconds on play clock...and call a delay of game is just another kind of awful. Otherworldly bad.

The only thing about that Sherman penalty...they are saying the whistle wasnt blown. If that is the case........I think the ref standing over the ball was shitty.

The epitome of stupid

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/93644606

The ESPN rating is flawed. It rewards a good team and good situations for the QB. Siemian is terrible on a team with a great defense, above average running game and a style that puts them in a much more controlled game script. Fitzpatrick has a terrible defense, bad o-line and has played from behind almost all year. The ESPN QBR gives players credit for results during close games and clutch moments.

Can people really say if they need a QB for a game they take Siemian over Fitzpatrick? I'm not saying Fitzpatrick is good, but Siemian has been a bottom 5 QB AND he's literally got no ceiling. He's the ultimate game manager with a below average arm, no experience, average accuracy and mobility.

He might prove me wrong, but there isn't a single QB I would take him over right now.

Azubuike24;1823916 wrote:The ESPN rating is flawed. It rewards a good team and good situations for the QB. Siemian is terrible on a team with a great defense, above average running game and a style that puts them in a much more controlled game script. Fitzpatrick has a terrible defense, bad o-line and has played from behind almost all year. The ESPN QBR gives players credit for results during close games and clutch moments.

Can people really say if they need a QB for a game they take Siemian over Fitzpatrick? I'm not saying Fitzpatrick is good, but Siemian has been a bottom 5 QB AND he's literally got no ceiling. He's the ultimate game manager with a below average arm, no experience, average accuracy and mobility.

He might prove me wrong, but there isn't a single QB I would take him over right now.

Just seems like a stretch that he's the worst.

Azubuike24;1823916 wrote:The ESPN rating is flawed. It rewards a good team and good situations for the QB. Siemian is terrible on a team with a great defense, above average running game and a style that puts them in a much more controlled game script. Fitzpatrick has a terrible defense, bad o-line and has played from behind almost all year. The ESPN QBR gives players credit for results during close games and clutch moments.

Can people really say if they need a QB for a game they take Siemian over Fitzpatrick? I'm not saying Fitzpatrick is good, but Siemian has been a bottom 5 QB AND he's literally got no ceiling. He's the ultimate game manager with a below average arm, no experience, average accuracy and mobility.

He might prove me wrong, but there isn't a single QB I would take him over right now.

Lol did Siemian steal your girlfriend?

I don't get it. You say he his QBR is worse than Fitzpatrick's (it isn't) so then you don't like that system. The NFL.com rating has Fitzpatrick at 67 and Siemian at 86. Is that flawed, too? Siemian has played all of eight games and he's the ultimate game manager with no ceiling. Fitzpatrick is in his 12th season and leading the league in INTs, and he's a better choice?

Whatever you say...

friendfromlowry;1823925 wrote:Lol did Siemian steal your girlfriend?

I don't get it. You say he his QBR is worse than Fitzpatrick's (it isn't) so then you don't like that system. The NFL.com rating has Fitzpatrick at 67 and Siemian at 86. Is that flawed, too? Siemian has played all of eight games and he's the ultimate game manager with no ceiling. Fitzpatrick is in his 12th season and leading the league in INTs, and he's a better choice?

Whatever you say...

Every stat that goes against what buike says is flawed.

Buike is king of bringing subjectivity to an objective fight. Lol

Lol'd...at comments too

Petty starting at QB today. Not sure why, they have Fitzpatrick on their team!

Eagles players all went out on the field to help the military hold a huge flag over the field, except for Malcolm Jenkins. He stood on the sideline by himself raising a closed fist in the air.

Fuck is wrong with people lol

Titans up 35-10 on Green Bay and it's not even halftime.

Azubuike24;1823916 wrote:He might prove me wrong, but there isn't a single QB I would take him over right now.

22/35, 237 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT's today.

There's really not a single QB you'd take over him?

41-22 Tennessee. Lions might be in first after today!

SportsAndLady;1824278 wrote:22/35, 237 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT's today.

There's really not a single QB you'd take over him?

2 INTs.

wildcats20;1824280 wrote:2 INTs.

Hes pretty accurate honestly. Better than Lynch who looked awful against Atlanta