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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 1, 2016 10:39am
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/16650867/why-mets-pay-bobby-bonilla-119-million-today-every-july-1-2035
This is amazing. The Mets are still paying Bonilla and will continue to do so through 2035.
...deferred money plus 8% interest.
This is amazing. The Mets are still paying Bonilla and will continue to do so through 2035.
...deferred money plus 8% interest.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jul 1, 2016 11:24am
Yep. Griffey Jr still getting paid too.
I think that practice ended though with contracts!
I think that practice ended though with contracts!
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 1, 2016 12:44pm
???
What do you mean?
The reason he continues to get paid was because the parties agreed to defer in a contract.
What do you mean?
The reason he continues to get paid was because the parties agreed to defer in a contract.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jul 1, 2016 1:01pm
I mean I don't think teams are still doing this in new contracts.
BUt I could be wrong.
BUt I could be wrong.
Con_Alma;1802005 wrote:???
What do you mean?
The reason he continues to get paid was because the parties agreed to defer in a contract.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 1, 2016 2:16pm
Thanks for the clarification. I don't believe so either.

GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jul 1, 2016 2:49pm
So is this the better deal for him, or could he have netted a better return if he had invested? I haven't started earning enough to invest yet so I'm honestly wondering.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jul 1, 2016 2:52pm
With so many stories of athletes going broke, the deal at least protected him against himself.GOONx19;1802028 wrote:So is this the better deal for him, or could he have netted a better return if he had invested? I haven't started earning enough to invest yet so I'm honestly wondering.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 1, 2016 2:56pm
...better deal than what alternative? We can't assume he would have got the deal at all if it weren't deferred. We don't know that the Mets would be willing to have paid him the money present day so this may have been the only way to get the whole contract value. Clearly the Mets didn't want to do that or they would have.
It's not just about the possibility of getting better than an 8% return. It may be > 8% of a much lower total contract amount.
It's not just about the possibility of getting better than an 8% return. It may be > 8% of a much lower total contract amount.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 1, 2016 3:56pm
This IMO. He just would've lost it all in a restaurant venture probably.Al Bundy;1802031 wrote:With so many stories of athletes going broke, the deal at least protected him against himself.
I think last year he was the highest paid Mets OF until they picked up Cespedes.

Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Jul 1, 2016 6:16pm
I read somewhere with the way the markets are right now doing what he did is probably a better deal for him. Can't remember where I saw the article at though. It didn't go into too much detail either.GOONx19;1802028 wrote:So is this the better deal for him, or could he have netted a better return if he had invested? I haven't started earning enough to invest yet so I'm honestly wondering.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 1, 2016 6:22pm
Can't imagine this was a better deal for him. It's almost always a better idea to take the lump sum in current time than payments at a later time.

OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jul 2, 2016 10:51am
Don't want to move away from the thread, but I'm sure you can start. It's always better to start throwing money into a Roth IRA when you can instead of waiting until you "earn enough."GOONx19;1802028 wrote:So is this the better deal for him, or could he have netted a better return if he had invested? I haven't started earning enough to invest yet so I'm honestly wondering.
In my little figuring, if he took the lump sum and put it in an account that returned 8%, he would have the SAME cash value ($29.8m) by 2021. So, he'd have the same cash value 5 years from now and 14 years earlier than he'd have the annual payments.SportsAndLady;1802088 wrote:Can't imagine this was a better deal for him. It's almost always a better idea to take the lump sum in current time than payments at a later time.
If he takes the money until 2021 and puts it into an 8% account, it'd be worth $8m then. But, at the end of the deal (24 years or whatever), the money is actually close to the same come 2035. The lump sum invested in 8% returns around $87m per year (2000-2035) and annual payments invested in 8% returns around $86m per year (2011-2035).

GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jul 2, 2016 2:47pm
It's not that I'm not saving anything. We have 10% going into a Roth IRA through my 403b (+5% matches), 25% for short term savings (house and car soon), and our minimum student loan payment is equal to 30% of our pre-tax income. Add in rent, utilities, cell, Internet, etc and we don't really have a whole lot left over until we finish our residencies.OSH;1802171 wrote:Don't want to move away from the thread, but I'm sure you can start. It's always better to start throwing money into a Roth IRA when you can instead of waiting until you "earn enough."
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 24, 2016 1:12pm
Jr. still getting paid by the Redlegs too???? Wow.
Robert Raiola, CPA ‏@SportsTaxMan 2h2 hours ago Ken Griffey Jr. Is still being paid by #Reds. He receives approx $3.59m per year until 2025. #MLB #HOFWKND
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Robert Raiola, CPA ‏@SportsTaxMan 2h2 hours ago Ken Griffey Jr. Is still being paid by #Reds. He receives approx $3.59m per year until 2025. #MLB #HOFWKND
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Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 24, 2016 2:57pm
Good for Griffey
The feeling that my Reds were getting the most exciting and best player in baseball back at the turn of the century was the best sporting news of my life. It sucks sucks sucks that he broke down and really at no point was ever THE Ken Griffey Jr.
The feeling that my Reds were getting the most exciting and best player in baseball back at the turn of the century was the best sporting news of my life. It sucks sucks sucks that he broke down and really at no point was ever THE Ken Griffey Jr.