
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Mar 18, 2016 6:40pm
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/white-sox-star-adam-laroche-resigns-son-37713740
Really? THis isnt a national bring your kid to work day every day.
If I was a player in that locker room, I wouldnt want some little kid in there ever.
Here how this would go "Hey kid, I am going to be gone for the next 9 months to make $13 million. When I am done we can hang out every day"
Really? THis isnt a national bring your kid to work day every day.
If I was a player in that locker room, I wouldnt want some little kid in there ever.
Here how this would go "Hey kid, I am going to be gone for the next 9 months to make $13 million. When I am done we can hang out every day"

iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Mar 18, 2016 8:08pm
This whole news story is stupid. I get bringing your kid every once in awhile, but everyday is absurd. Who the hell wants their kid at their job everyday? And retiring instead of making $13M? Good thing to take a stand on bro.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Mar 18, 2016 8:14pm
As a white sox fan I have followed this pretty well. Sounds like it came up last off season when he signed two year contract that his kid could be around the clubhouse with
him. Maybe Laroche wasn't clear how often and Kenny Williams then clarified what was OK after seeing that the kid was there all the time last year.
odd part was Chris Sale saying Williams lied to the team about the reason (changed story at least twice). sale then made reference that Williams should have been the one leaving the organization, not Laroche. Not good to hear from your ace...
him. Maybe Laroche wasn't clear how often and Kenny Williams then clarified what was OK after seeing that the kid was there all the time last year.
odd part was Chris Sale saying Williams lied to the team about the reason (changed story at least twice). sale then made reference that Williams should have been the one leaving the organization, not Laroche. Not good to hear from your ace...
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Mar 18, 2016 9:12pm
That's the interesting part because it's starting to create some discontent with the players. Sounds like no one really was bothered by the kid being there, but Williams tried to pawn it off on them (and eventually the coaches).slingshot4ever;1787808 wrote:As a white sox fan I have followed this pretty well. Sounds like it came up last off season when he signed two year contract that his kid could be around the clubhouse with
him. Maybe Laroche wasn't clear how often and Kenny Williams then clarified what was OK after seeing that the kid was there all the time last year.
odd part was Chris Sale saying Williams lied to the team about the reason (changed story at least twice). sale then made reference that Williams should have been the one leaving the organization, not Laroche. Not good to hear from your ace...
I don't think LaRoche is stupid. But he did come to an understanding with the White Sox that his son could be around basically whenever he wanted, and now they're backtracking on it. If you've already have many millions in the bank, maybe he could afford to walk away from another $13 million. He said this would have been his last season anyways.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 18, 2016 9:16pm
His release on the issue was thorough and well done.
I can't sit here and judge him.
I can't sit here and judge him.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 18, 2016 9:27pm
He has been on 6 teams in 7 years and has earned over $70,000,000 in salary over his years.
Personally I would play 1 more year, make the $13 million and retire....but I haven't made a wealth of money like that during my working career
Personally I would play 1 more year, make the $13 million and retire....but I haven't made a wealth of money like that during my working career

Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Mar 18, 2016 11:34pm
If what is being reported is true, that Williams told him he could bring his kid around whenever...and now Williams is back tracking on it...then he's not stupid. With Sale backing him and calling out Williams, makes it sound like Williams has really messed up. Williams will be gone before Sale is.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 19, 2016 12:39am
He's giving up $13 million by not playing a baseball season. He's definitely stupid.Benny The Jet;1787868 wrote:If what is being reported is true, that Williams told him he could bring his kid around whenever...and now Williams is back tracking on it...then he's not stupid. With Sale backing him and calling out Williams, makes it sound like Williams has really messed up. Williams will be gone before Sale is.
Boohoo, your employer went back on something. Happens to everyone. Get over it and keep your kid out of a damn baseball clubhouse.

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 19, 2016 12:46am
Have to agree with S&L. I'd just go through the motions, steal the 13M and then retire. That's the best way to stick it to the GM...not give him 13M more to pocket or spend.

Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Mar 19, 2016 8:09am
I just don't see how anyone can call someone else dumb, for doing something they think is right. I don't know his overall financial situation, but he must feel his over 10 years of mlb paychecks must be enough for him to get by. Plus I know he's part of the Buck Commander group. Sure he gets paid to hunt and have it televised too. Either way, I'm not going to call someone dumb for making millions and choosing his family over money.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 19, 2016 9:48am
You must be cool with ISIS then lolBenny The Jet;1787940 wrote:I just don't see how anyone can call someone else dumb, for doing something they think is right.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Mar 19, 2016 10:03am
I need to read more on the non-money part of this. I love my son, but I didn't want to be with him 24x7, nor would that have been healthy for his development. As far as business goes, if someone wants to or needs to bring a well-behaved child to the office occasionally, I have no problem, but it isn't a daycare facility.

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 19, 2016 10:09am
I saw on ESPN yesterday they were actually debating how unhealthy it is for a 14-year old to be with his dad every single day, all the time. It was Rusiello and Kanell and they both said they would be concerned if that is what their son wanted.
Hell, I'd probably tell my dad that I'd give up the extra time with him if he would give me 10% of the 13M haha.
Hell, I'd probably tell my dad that I'd give up the extra time with him if he would give me 10% of the 13M haha.

Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Mar 19, 2016 10:29am
HahaSportsAndLady;1787942 wrote:You must be cool with ISIS then lol
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HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 19, 2016 11:26am
Just off the top of my head, I think 99% of this country would think you are stupid, if not insane, to walk away from $13 million to play baseball. Most American boys ( if they haven't been poisoned by soccer) grow up wishing to be a major leaguer, and would gladly play for the major league minimum.
On the other hand, there is something noble about putting family first...in realizing you've already have made enough money that you and your posterity are set for life, and that you have the right and ability to do what you think is best for your family.
There is no question that LaRoche has every right not to take a job that he doesn't want to do under his employers terms.
That said:
What I question here is his parenting skills....what kind of message...what kind of example is he setting. Most certainly, it is not a good lesson to tell your boss to F*** off because of work rules or company rules....rules apply to everybody.
Moreover, access to a major league clubhouse daily is something that needs to be earned, not a birthright. The son needs to learn "No".....if not the Dad also.
On the other hand, there is something noble about putting family first...in realizing you've already have made enough money that you and your posterity are set for life, and that you have the right and ability to do what you think is best for your family.
There is no question that LaRoche has every right not to take a job that he doesn't want to do under his employers terms.
That said:
What I question here is his parenting skills....what kind of message...what kind of example is he setting. Most certainly, it is not a good lesson to tell your boss to F*** off because of work rules or company rules....rules apply to everybody.
Moreover, access to a major league clubhouse daily is something that needs to be earned, not a birthright. The son needs to learn "No".....if not the Dad also.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Mar 19, 2016 11:36am
unless of course this was agreed upon when he signed with the white sox last year and they changed their mind...but this clearly wasn't verbiage included in the contractHitsRus;1787952 wrote:Just off the top of my head, I think 99% of this country would think you are stupid, if not insane, to walk away from $13 million to play baseball. Most American boys ( if they haven't been poisoned by soccer) grow up wishing to be a major leaguer, and would gladly play for the major league minimum.
On the other hand, there is something noble about putting family first...in realizing you've already have made enough money that you and your posterity are set for life, and that you have the right and ability to do what you think is best for your family.
There is no question that LaRoche has every right not to take a job that he doesn't want to do under his employers terms.
That said:
What I question here is his parenting skills....what kind of message...what kind of example is he setting. Most certainly, it is not a good lesson to tell your boss to F*** off because of work rules or company rules....rules apply to everybody.
Moreover, access to a major league clubhouse daily is something that needs to be earned, not a birthright. The son needs to learn "No".....if not the Dad also.

Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Mar 19, 2016 11:51am
Ha, taken to the extreme...but I see your point. Well done.SportsAndLady;1787942 wrote:You must be cool with ISIS then lol

OSH
Posts: 4,145
Mar 19, 2016 1:04pm
While I mostly agree with everyone that it is dumb to have son around all the time, it is interesting to hear from ex-big leaguers. The ones I've heard talk about it, were also the sons of big leaguers. They said they were around all the time too. No one cared. The biggest thing is, know your place and stay out of the way.
As long as the kids didn't bother anyone, didn't mouth off, stayed out of the way, and all that good stuff, it was commonplace for kids to be around all the time.
As long as the kids didn't bother anyone, didn't mouth off, stayed out of the way, and all that good stuff, it was commonplace for kids to be around all the time.

BRF
Posts: 8,748
Mar 19, 2016 5:31pm
.OSH;1787961 wrote: The biggest thing is, know your place and stay out of the way.
As long as the kids didn't bother anyone, didn't mouth off, stayed out of the way, and all that good stuff, it was commonplace for kids to be around all the time.
And there you have it.

HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 19, 2016 5:55pm
But not 100% of the time , and the ChiSox just asked him to scale it back.As long as the kids didn't bother anyone, didn't mouth off, stayed out of the way, and all that good stuff, it was commonplace for kids to be around all the time.

OSH
Posts: 4,145
Mar 19, 2016 8:18pm
Again, it depended on the players, organizations, and such...but those players talked like it was more often than not there's players' kids around. No one said any percentage or anything. Aaron Boone was one who said he was around all the time. No one can truly give a percentage of 100, 75, 50, or whatever.HitsRus;1787981 wrote:But not 100% of the time , and the ChiSox just asked him to scale it back.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 19, 2016 8:49pm
Was he around every game or just a bunch of home games?

Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Mar 20, 2016 11:18am
Possibly, but I'd call this "taking an emphatic, if perhaps somewhat misguided, stand to strange levels". I'd call him stupid if he always was saying "should of" and "could of".Spock;1787778 wrote:http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/white-sox-star-adam-laroche-resigns-son-37713740
Really? THis isnt a national bring your kid to work day every day.
If I was a player in that locker room, I wouldnt want some little kid in there ever.
Here how this would go "Hey kid, I am going to be gone for the next 9 months to make $13 million. When I am done we can hang out every day"

OSH
Posts: 4,145
Mar 20, 2016 2:27pm
I guess I need to repeat it...Ironman92;1788028 wrote:Was he around every game or just a bunch of home games?
Aaron Boone was one who said he was around all the time. No one can truly give a percentage of 100, 75, 50, or whatever.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 20, 2016 3:17pm
