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plateman
Posts: 4
Feb 24, 2016 8:49am
Around March madness, it is always asked..."Is this the year a #16 beats a #1?" So....what are the matches at the Darby District that have the greatest potential of seeing a #4 sectional placer upset a #1 sectional placer. I use the word "upset" only to indicate placements at sectionals......
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Dust_E_Roads
Posts: 752
Feb 24, 2016 9:12am
I scanned the brackets and I don't see many at Darby. If I had to go out on a limb and pick one, I would go with Tate (MV) over Amador (HB) at 138.
I just couldn't find a lot of unexpected 4 seeds or vulnerable 1 seeds.
Osburn (WK - 126) is probably one of the strongest 4 seeds in the tournament, but he draws Lathem, and I don't see him winning that one.
A few other 1 seeds benefitted from generally soft Sectionals (Houston - Orange 220 and Harris - Zanesville 285, for example), but their 4 seed opponents aren't well equipped for the upset in my opinion.
I just couldn't find a lot of unexpected 4 seeds or vulnerable 1 seeds.
Osburn (WK - 126) is probably one of the strongest 4 seeds in the tournament, but he draws Lathem, and I don't see him winning that one.
A few other 1 seeds benefitted from generally soft Sectionals (Houston - Orange 220 and Harris - Zanesville 285, for example), but their 4 seed opponents aren't well equipped for the upset in my opinion.

cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Feb 24, 2016 9:32am
Anytime a #4 is picked to defeat a #1 it is a long shot. But, as noted below, it can - and does - happen.
2015: #4 over #1
152: MA-4 Leapley (CC...HS) dec. WM-1 Vassar 14-13sv (a match Vassar would avenge in the conso-semis (go-to match).)
160: NE-4 Allen (DC) dec. Hess (GL) 7-2 (both failed to place.)
170: MA-4 Weirick (M) WBF Fitzpatrick (OL) 5:56 (both failed to place.)
So, can it happen? Yes. Does it happen often? No. Thrice out of 56 chances last year.
Predicting a #4 over #1 this year will be just as complicated. But I'll throw a few 4/1 matches that spark my interest...
113: NE-4 Saunders (GM) v. Harris (3V) - you can't blame me for that! (Or any others like it!)
132: WM-4 Collins (PN) v. W. Heard (M) - Collins (PN) is a former DP. Heard is a (albeit seasoned) freshman. Crazy things happen.
138: UA-4 Ben Tate (MV) v. Amador (HB) - former SQ in Tate as the 4. Could cause some problems for Amador.
145: UA-4 Wallace (WK) v. Young (DH) - I'm not sure why my eyes are being drawn to this match but they are.
160: NE-4 Wilson (LH) v. Leapley (CC...HS) - a rematch of the Comet Classic consolation final in which Wilson (LH) won 9-4.
170: NE-4 Buck (GM) v. H. Heard (M) - What!?
I was able to come up with three to five that I see as "potential".
#INVICTUS
#ProveMeWrong
2015: #4 over #1
152: MA-4 Leapley (CC...HS) dec. WM-1 Vassar 14-13sv (a match Vassar would avenge in the conso-semis (go-to match).)
160: NE-4 Allen (DC) dec. Hess (GL) 7-2 (both failed to place.)
170: MA-4 Weirick (M) WBF Fitzpatrick (OL) 5:56 (both failed to place.)
So, can it happen? Yes. Does it happen often? No. Thrice out of 56 chances last year.
Predicting a #4 over #1 this year will be just as complicated. But I'll throw a few 4/1 matches that spark my interest...
113: NE-4 Saunders (GM) v. Harris (3V) - you can't blame me for that! (Or any others like it!)
132: WM-4 Collins (PN) v. W. Heard (M) - Collins (PN) is a former DP. Heard is a (albeit seasoned) freshman. Crazy things happen.
138: UA-4 Ben Tate (MV) v. Amador (HB) - former SQ in Tate as the 4. Could cause some problems for Amador.
145: UA-4 Wallace (WK) v. Young (DH) - I'm not sure why my eyes are being drawn to this match but they are.
160: NE-4 Wilson (LH) v. Leapley (CC...HS) - a rematch of the Comet Classic consolation final in which Wilson (LH) won 9-4.
170: NE-4 Buck (GM) v. H. Heard (M) - What!?
I was able to come up with three to five that I see as "potential".
#INVICTUS
#ProveMeWrong
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It is what it is
Posts: 998
Feb 24, 2016 9:50am
I only see 3 matches (#4 v #1) that have a potential lower seed winning:
126 - Osborne v Lathem; possible, but not likely
138 - Tate v Amador; very possible, but Amador coming down from 145 seems like a little too much for Tate
160 - Wilson v Leapley; the most likely, imo, but I'm a CC...HS guy, so I didn't pick that in my bracket pick'em!
If I were a betting man,
, however, I'd say Wilson dec Leapley 15-13! :RpS_lol:
126 - Osborne v Lathem; possible, but not likely
138 - Tate v Amador; very possible, but Amador coming down from 145 seems like a little too much for Tate
160 - Wilson v Leapley; the most likely, imo, but I'm a CC...HS guy, so I didn't pick that in my bracket pick'em!
If I were a betting man,
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Dust_E_Roads
Posts: 752
Feb 24, 2016 11:32am
Totally missed Wilson vs. Leapley. Good call gents.
And Cruiser, I sincerely noodled on Buck vs. Heard for a while. Buck looked solid when I saw him at Marion Harding. Strong kid.
And Cruiser, I sincerely noodled on Buck vs. Heard for a while. Buck looked solid when I saw him at Marion Harding. Strong kid.

cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Feb 24, 2016 12:03pm
If Buck loses, he's walking home. As a coach, it is my job to motivate. I feel I have done my job.Dust_E_Roads;1783043 wrote:Totally missed Wilson vs. Leapley. Good call gents.
And Cruiser, I sincerely noodled on Buck vs. Heard for a while. Buck looked solid when I saw him at Marion Harding. Strong kid.
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Tony Mead
Posts: 323
Feb 24, 2016 12:15pm
Sean King over Spurgeon 182

iGranby
Posts: 398
Feb 25, 2016 7:55pm
Agreed.Tony Mead;1783053 wrote:Sean King over Spurgeon 182
Another one to watch is Carter vs Deluse at 182. I would not be surprised if Carter makes it interesting. I dont see the upset happening though, honestly. That being said, I do have Carter storming back in a big way on day two.

bribacker51
Posts: 573
Feb 26, 2016 11:36am
Deluse by pin just on another leveliGranby;1783326 wrote:Agreed.
Another one to watch is Carter vs Deluse at 182. I would not be surprised if Carter makes it interesting. I dont see the upset happening though, honestly. That being said, I do have Carter storming back in a big way on day two.
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Bluepride1990
Posts: 12
Feb 26, 2016 12:19pm
Hope Heard saw this and is motivated. I think you are encouraging your kid but by doing this in public motivates the other kid.cruiser_96;1783051 wrote:If Buck loses, he's walking home. As a coach, it is my job to motivate. I feel I have done my job.
But thanks for all you do for #centraldistrict wrestling.
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Dust_E_Roads
Posts: 752
Feb 26, 2016 1:26pm
I'm sure he was joking.Bluepride1990;1783427 wrote:Hope Heard saw this and is motivated. I think you are encouraging your kid but by doing this in public motivates the other kid.

cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Feb 26, 2016 10:48pm
As a consolation, since he wrestled ok, I made him walk from the hotel to the restaurant and then back.
Tough loss but he'll bounce back.
Heard wrestled tough the whole way through. Best of luck to him for the rest of the tournament(s).
DustE: thanks for playing along.
Tough loss but he'll bounce back.
Heard wrestled tough the whole way through. Best of luck to him for the rest of the tournament(s).
DustE: thanks for playing along.
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Dust_E_Roads
Posts: 752
Feb 27, 2016 8:11am
Marshal looked good Cruise, he wrestled well. Thought he was going to pull it off.cruiser_96;1783515 wrote:As a consolation, since he wrestled ok, I made him walk from the hotel to the restaurant and then back.
Tough loss but he'll bounce back.
Heard wrestled tough the whole way through. Best of luck to him for the rest of the tournament(s).
DustE: thanks for playing along.