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Sonofanump
Jan 22, 2016 12:22pm
Not intending for this does not come across as a belly "what kind of chainsaw do you own" type thread, but the use of the word "we" in the expression of the fandom of professional sports teams really intrigues me from a cognitive/physiological point of view. With the fluidity of players and the moving of franchises, are you rooting for the uniform? I understand someone using the word "we" to express a rooting interest for a university program that one is a student of or alum from, but what loyalty does the a professional sporting team give someone to use the word "we"? Do you feel that any casual fan should use "we" to describe who they root for in their living room? Plz be honest.
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like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 22, 2016 12:25pm
When you are not a bandwagon fan, and actually feel like your team and the fans is some sort of 2nd family people tend to use "we."
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 22, 2016 12:31pm
I try to make a concerted effort NOT to do this. I may get some shit for saying this but I notice this in Steeler "fans" all the time and I'll ridicule them for it. And if I do ever do it, PLEASE call me out for it.like_that;1777528 wrote:When you are not a bandwagon fan, and actually feel like your team and the fans is some sort of 2nd family people tend to use "we."
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jan 22, 2016 12:32pm
I generally use both "we" and "they" when talking about my teams. Whichever one comes out of my mouth when talking, so I don't really have an issue with fans using that terminology. Especially since I might speak for 10-20 seconds and use both terms a couple times each.
One thing I have noticed as time goes on is that people who make any sort of an issue about it really have their work cut out for them as far as not looking like a whiny little bitch goes, since they're basically taking a "you might have made good points, but I'm gonna ignore the hell out of them to poke fun at your choice of words" stance.
One thing I have noticed as time goes on is that people who make any sort of an issue about it really have their work cut out for them as far as not looking like a whiny little bitch goes, since they're basically taking a "you might have made good points, but I'm gonna ignore the hell out of them to poke fun at your choice of words" stance.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 22, 2016 12:33pm
I don't like saying it, but in regards to OSU I don't give a fuck. I'm allowed.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 22, 2016 12:37pm
I think you're an OSU grad, correct?Automatik;1777535 wrote:I don't like saying it, but in regards to OSU I don't give a fuck. I'm allowed.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 22, 2016 12:38pm
Yes, and still paying for it.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 22, 2016 12:41pm
I sometimes try to make sure I don't say it, but other times I just don't give a fuck.BR1986FB;1777533 wrote:I try to make a concerted effort NOT to do this. I may get some shit for saying this but I notice this in Steeler "fans" all the time and I'll ridicule them for it. And if I do ever do it, PLEASE call me out for it.
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Sonofanump
Jan 22, 2016 12:41pm
I understand someone using the word "we" to express a rooting interest for a university program that one is a student of or alum from,Automatik;1777540 wrote:Yes, and still paying for it.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 22, 2016 12:42pm
Perfectly within your right.Automatik;1777540 wrote:Yes, and still paying for it.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 22, 2016 12:43pm
The worst is just some random ass team you like... i.e. Manchester United.
"We looked like shite today against City!"
Please stop.
"We looked like shite today against City!"
Please stop.
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Sonofanump
Jan 22, 2016 12:46pm
It becomes odd when using demonstratives in fandom like, "We are going to kick their ass", "We did this", "We did that".Heretic;1777534 wrote:I generally use both "we" and "they" when talking about my teams. Whichever one comes out of my mouth when talking, so I don't really have an issue with fans using that terminology. Especially since I might speak for 10-20 seconds and use both terms a couple times each.
One thing I have noticed as time goes on is that people who make any sort of an issue about it really have their work cut out for them as far as not looking like a whiny little bitch goes, since they're basically taking a "you might have made good points, but I'm gonna ignore the hell out of them to poke fun at your choice of words" stance.
It becomes less odd when expressing points of strategy.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 22, 2016 12:47pm
I have a major issue with Seahawks fans too. Girl I used to hang out with (native Clevelander/lifelong Browns fan) goes to visit Seattle with her husband and they are taking all of these selfies in Seahawks gear and saying "we" about Seattle after they returned. About threw up a piano reading that shit.Automatik;1777547 wrote:The worst is just some random ass team you like... i.e. Manchester United.
"We looked like shite today against City!"
Please stop.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 22, 2016 12:48pm
Yep. I have a friend who likes Arsenal who says "we" and I refuse to use anything other than "they" when talking about Liverpool. But I think soccer is a little different since it's based on entirely different continents and (pretty much) no one has a personal connection to the teams.Automatik;1777547 wrote:The worst is just some random ass team you like... i.e. Manchester United.
"We looked like shite today against City!"
Please stop.
When it comes to teams from America, I don't consider this discussion to be any different from the "you're not allowed to root for this team or that team" one. Both instances are someone trying to act "better" than another fan, and I just DGAF. I say "we" when talking about Cleveland teams and I really don't care when someone else uses it to talk about their teams.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 22, 2016 12:49pm
Precisely. When I hear that "we did this" shit, they usually get "what number do you wear and what position do you play?" in return.Sonofanump;1777549 wrote:It becomes odd when using demonstratives in fandom like, "We are going to kick their ass", "We did this", "We did that".
It becomes less odd when expressing points of strategy.
Strategy is a little different. I try to say "they" but I'm sure I've slipped up with the "we."
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 22, 2016 1:07pm
I sometimes do I believe but I also usually try to think about how it sounds in the wording so as to not sound like to much of a douche/dumbfuck.
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Jan 22, 2016 1:50pm
I think it's ok to say we when talking about one's team with other fans...... like on the Browns and Indians threads here.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jan 22, 2016 2:51pm
Needs to be multiple choice, but if assuming this is a continuum, I will go with the lowest level being "Season Ticket Holder." IMO, you are an investor.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jan 22, 2016 3:36pm
Ironiclhslep134;1777551 wrote: are someone trying to act "better" than another fan.
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Sonofanump
Jan 22, 2016 3:50pm
Yeah, I meant the poll to be a descending order how much "stock" one would have in the team.ernest_t_bass;1777576 wrote:Needs to be multiple choice, but if assuming this is a continuum, I will go with the lowest level being "Season Ticket Holder." IMO, you are an investor.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jan 22, 2016 4:00pm
Someone I went to school with and was a pretty good friend started dating a guy from Seattle a few years ago (I'm not sure if they're even still dating, though). Suddenly, she's this huge Seahawks fan. Perhaps I wasn't paying attention, but I think she was always a passive fan of the Browns up until then. But I don't ever remember her being a Seahawks fan, especially before the last few years when they've become good.BR1986FB;1777550 wrote:I have a major issue with Seahawks fans too. Girl I used to hang out with (native Clevelander/lifelong Browns fan) goes to visit Seattle with her husband and they are taking all of these selfies in Seahawks gear and saying "we" about Seattle after they returned. About threw up a piano reading that shit.
Anyways, after the Bengals lost a couple weeks ago, she tweeted something like "Okay the Bengals fans can jump off the bandwagon now. #GoSeahawks" She's the literal definition of bandwagon and doesn't know it.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jan 22, 2016 6:05pm
I try not to use 'we.'
I get annoyed when someone not apart of the program I'm apart that says "we are doing great." Bitch, the fuck are you doing?
Now, the die-hards I feel have some right to use it. I do believe in a home field advantage.
I get annoyed when someone not apart of the program I'm apart that says "we are doing great." Bitch, the fuck are you doing?
Now, the die-hards I feel have some right to use it. I do believe in a home field advantage.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 22, 2016 7:54pm
Don't really care. I know what people mean. Nobody thinks they are apart of the organization.
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Jan 22, 2016 8:40pm
a part........
apart from that......
"we" kicked ass. <--- Steeler fan from Middle Ohio.
apart from that......
"we" kicked ass. <--- Steeler fan from Middle Ohio.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 22, 2016 8:46pm
Why does that bother you? You obviously know they just mean the steelers and not themselves.BRF;1777662 wrote:a part........
apart from that......
"we" kicked ass. <--- Steeler fan from Middle Ohio.